Quite interesting Debs,

Saturn in leo and Sun in Capricorn,so the energy bounces between these two points,im just wondering Deb, you mentioned before about how Leo Suns often seem to come up against you in a way and you had it down to your Moon in Leo?  Im just thinking perhaps its actually Saturn? Leo-esq in nature with saturn in leo.I remember seeing the chart recently of the famous singer 'Bjork' ,before looking at her chart I often thought her personality is very Aquarian.when I first looked at the chart was really surprised not only is she a triple Scorpio (Sun,Moon and Asc) but also I could'nt see any planets in the sign of Aquarius!

 

Then I saw that Pluto is conjuction to Uranus and smack bang on the midheaven. to me this seems to show that we see the personality of the ruling planet through its placement and aspects which then shine through on their (Sun,Asc,Moon). In this respect I should imagine I would probably come across as being very Cancerian as my chart ruler is in Cancer and I could also imagine that you may come across as very Leo-like as your Ascendant ruler Is the moon In leo and your Suns ruler is also in Leo.

 

 

Re:   Saturn in leo and Sun in Capricorn,so the energy bounces between these two points,

 

Im just thinking perhaps its actually Saturn? Leo-sq in nature with saturn in leo

 

 

that's a novel idea

 

I'll have to think on it.  Thanks Paul for checking.

 

never thought of "bouncing energies?".......before.

I wonder what we can see with Ralph's chart or even Jessica (my younger daughter with the issues).....This is going to be a new revelation perhaps to me.:

 

I really do believe there is some negative  karma going on.....there has to be.

 

 

graph one:  His natal Moon is Cancer, and he's very much a Cancerian,and it shows. Very empathetic towards others, and even a kind of "good dad", who would do anything for his family.

Would cook for them, make them extra special treats, just as we'd think of a Moon in cancer.

 

Graph #1 shows the dispositorship to the Moon as the "Final" dispositor

 

Mars disposits to the Sun which in turn to Venus sounds like how he lived his life. His energies have always been towards giving to others.

 

The 2nd graph (House dispositor hierarchy), shows the final ones being Mars & Jupiter.

His "Hour" Ruler when he was born, is Jupiter and he is a very giving pe rson.

 

The final sign dispoitors wheel, again, circled shows Moon & Venus as ruling

and finally, Jupiter and Mars.

 

Sounds right to me.

 

Whereas mine seems quite straight forwarded and simple to read, as does Ralph's, this one does not seem so simple and straight forward

 

 

I've only really got to grips with the sign depositor wheels,to me it seems like the most important thing to focus on.the others are important too in other way but I think they need to be interpretted differently.

 

I think on the astro site there is a very good explanation on how each different chart works and help on how to read them.

 

From the sign depositor wheel looking at Neptune its energy goes through Venus as its in Libra but we also remember that it interacts with the aspected planets in the natal. With Neptune in the 4th in libra I would imagine you would wish for a very pleasant home and family life and a calm and balanced environment.Venus then deposits to Jupiter and Jupiter then to Pluto,Jupiter is interestiung as its quite close to Venus and makes some similar aspects to Venus,I often think of jupiter as an amplifier,like if for example (hypotheticly speaking) Venus was a song then Jupiter is the marshall rock amp to crank up the sound abit more! when Jupiter is in the mix it tends to put abit more umphh! on what its interacting with. I think Pluto is also very important as it too is in Leo adding more weight to this sign as being an important sign in your chart.

 

 

^^That last reply was also to the first graph Deb (your one), you have to excuse me im a little slow! and I cant keep up with the posts sometimes lol. 

Re: the bouncing energies,

 

Yea the way I see it,visualize it .Is when I see two planets as final depositors I think of it much like tennis,that might sound funny! but bear with me lol. 

The energy will br focused between two points as to its final possible outcome so reactions might bounce between a Saturnian reaction or a Sun-like one. Remember when I talked in the other thread about my reactions to things sometimes and how often it goes through a 3 point reaction cycle abit like a chain or if we are comparing to games it would be like passing something around in a group of 3.

 

I found this Blurb on google:

 

I cant remember exactly where I found the original information from? I thought there was something on astro that explains all their charts ,hmmm perhaps not!?

 

But yea ,when a chart has two separate final depositors energies work differently.So for example with Ralphs moon ,there is no other planets in a chain before or after the moon so the energy here is more of a pure state, although we remember that the aspects to the moon are crucial too.the way I look at it is ,if we see all the planets as being parts of our phyche we see that mars for instance represents how we deal with anger,when that part of our phyche is stimulated we then see how that energy then becomes dilluted and changes through the aspects with other planets and in the depositor tree.for example the mars energy may be channeled into the next planet which will then add its charachteristics into the mix.

The one for your daughter looks a little more complex yes.

 

The best thing to do when looking at these I find is to have the natal at hand aswell so you can look back and forth between the depositor chart and the natal to see where the energy is inter-acting and through what houses.

 

There are two separate chains here with both having more than 1 final depositor.This is very usual and quite alot of charts have this,Ive seen charts with 3 chains.

His Moon is square to Mercury (when younger, like you are; he was quite a handful of emotions.....esp.with his Leo at the MC ......

I think anyway, he has come a long long way in handling them better.

 

Nothing at all resembling when young.  His emotional state was almost polarized, (bi-polar) when younger. But then again, maybe I was too...Lots of firey energy for me too (Aries MC) to battle his Leo MC.

 

His moon is conj. his Mars,but Moon is 29 deg.Cancer and Mars is 4 deg.Leo.

 

(no wonder, I never realized till now his Moon was Anaretic,hmmmm

How to Create a Dispositorship Chart:

 

1)Go to astro.com

 

2)Where it says, "erect a natal chart" instead, click onto

 "Pullen Astrology" which is then a drop -down box, from which you can choose "Dispositorships"

 

3)from there you can see your own, or anyone else's that you have saved if you have an account on astro.com