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ASTROLOGY : Unaspected planets and the Lights
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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoon  (Original Message)Sent: 4/25/2008 7:11 AM
 
 
A question arose recently concerning the meaning of unaspected planets. From the point of view of psychological astrology, an unaspected planet is very rare! Perhaps it is so rare as to be non-existent. What are the orbs being used? For psychological work we allow very wide ones. We usually allow a ten to twelve degree orb for the Sun, Moon, and ascendant ruler when looking at aspects to other planets. Narrow aspects are used only in predictive astrology for timing, not in natal chart interpretation from a psychological perspective. Dialogue with the client is of the utmost importance! How does the planet work in his or her life?

Here are some quotes from astrological texts by (1) Margaret E. Hone, (2) Jeff Mayo and (3) Myrna Lofthus, respectively:

(1) "Occasionally a planet is found to receive no aspects whatsoever. (The student should be wary of failing to notice the semi-square and the sesquiquadrate.) This does not seem to have been the object of much research. The idea is expressed here that such a planet will not be weak or ineffective (unless otherwise so adjudged), but, failing the interchanges with other planets, its principles, and especially its drive or urge when considered as an instinct or a force in the unconscious self, will not be properly integrated into the wholeness of the person. If a forceful planet, it will lack ways of using its drive. If a more receptive planet, it will at times be as if left out of the scheme altogether. For instance, a person with an unaspected Mercury will have moments of acting from sheer emotion, without the inclusion of any reasoning whatsoever."

(2) "This does not mean the planet is a weak actor in the chart. Usually it is indicative, according to the planet, sign and house involved, of characteristics or a feature in the life of the person which it is difficult, or perhaps not attempted, to integrate with the rest of the nature or life-pattern."

(3) "An unaspected planet is said to indicate an area (the planet, the sign, and the house) that you are trying to express but find it difficult to do, because the planet doesn't have the necessary "energy" to make it operate."

I would like to add, with respect to a very well known chart that has an "unaspected" Sun (at 28 degrees of Cancer and no other planets are over 20 degrees of any sign), that the late degrees (27 to 29 degrees) of any sign show up with inevitable frequency in the charts of people with whom the native has important relationships: mother, brother, girl friends, wife, bosses. Other people seem to be drawn into his life to "activate" the "unaspected" Sun. And transits seem to affect him more powerfully than they do the average person. For instance, when Uranus and then Neptune went over 28 degrees of Capricorn, opposing the Sun, he experienced acute manifestations of a series of "identity crises" both with respect to his domestic life and his career. This continued until Saturn in late Aries finished making a square to the Sun.

Any time a planet stands out, whether as "unaspected" or as a singleton (the only planet in a hemisphere, element, modality or orientation) or in any other way, it is important to question the client and elicit information and history from him or her concerning the matters in the life that are signified by that planet. Then, and only then, can you begin to understand how it "works" for that particular individual. Expect a great variety of responses from different individuals. There are no easy, simple "cook-book" formulas for interpreting "unaspected" planets - or anything else in the chart, for that matter.



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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 4/25/2008 7:12 AM
 
a save able Link - pdf on "Unaspected Planets"

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 4/25/2008 7:27 AM
Another save able one, called "This and That" about RX, planets,
Mutual Receptions and Unaspected lights.
 
 
http://www.donmc.com/Unaspected.htm  by Noel Tyl, Arizona's best known Astrologer (lives up the street from me,  but in the fancy neighborhood.
 
 
 
by Karen Hamaker-Zondag:
 
 
 
by Erin Sullivan:
 
 
 
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Book excerpt by Karen Hamaker-Zondag:
 
 
 
 
Can you believe that Queen Elizabeth of England, accdg.to this book by Celeste Teal "Predictive Astrology", has an unaspected Sun?
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 4/26/2008 12:26 AM
Astrologers commonly suggest it is a pretty negative thing to have a planet not tied into the main themes of the rest of the chart represented by the other planets.  However others have argued that this is far from the case....and the unaspected planet (or even least aspected planet) represents a transcendental opportunity....as the planet is extremely pure in its essence and manifestation.  I have also found this to be true.
 
The most thorough and interesting analysis of unaspected planets I have found is Rob Couteau's webpage on Least Aspected Planets.  Here's a snippet of what he has to say, it is well worth a read:
 
"In traditional astrology, we are taught that the less aspected a planet, the less “tied-in�?are the life energies represented by that planet to the other planetary principles. Until my research into this subject, an underaspected planet was usually thought to represent a free floating and not very well integrated quotient of psychic energy–a psychic quality that had little, if any, rapport with the other energetic complexes represented by the various planets and horoscope factors.  
 
By now I hope, this notion has not only been disproved but also reversed, i.e., the least aspected planet (LAP) is the sin qua non: the most fundamental symbol in the horoscope. Due to its lack of traditional aspect relationships, the LAP operates in a relatively pure, free, and unfettered manner. Per­haps, this is the key to its strength. The LAP symbolizes the central spiritual goal and char­acter trait of the native. More than any other horoscope element, the LAP is the archetypal portrait of what we are at a core level.
Bearing this in mind, I have referred to this especial planet as the Transcendental planet..."
 
www.dominantstar.com

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 4/26/2008 6:16 AM
In the part of his personality ruled by the unaspected planet, the native is truly relaxed with other people (since he does not submit himself to them for approval or rejection of his acts), and therefore other people are able to relax with him. The unaspected planet in a chart is like the eye of   a hurricane—a place of repose and tranquility in the midst of a hurried, agitated rush.
 
 
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