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DREAMS : my dream while on vacation in Turkey
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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoon  (Original Message)Sent: 12/28/2006 3:29 PM
One night, not long after getting to Turkey I think around November 26, I had a startling dream.
 
It caused me so much grief, pain & fear that I woke up sweating & crying.
 
As I related it to my husband between  huge gasps & tears:
 
...........in the dream, I saw my daughter , the youngest one who will be 30yrs old,  in January.
 
I walked up to her (in reality that is not possible, as she will not see her parents or other family members like grandparents, and it has been many many years now, approx. 9)..........
 
but in the Dream state, I walked up to her and said,"Jess, you have no clothes to wear, they are all very old"......
I felt really bad for her & wanted to take her out & buy her all new clothes.  I knew she was married & well off financially, certainly better then my financial state, but it made no difference, as I was her mom, and wanted to outfit her anyway.
 
She said to me, "I love my mother, but don't come close"..........
 
She looked quite confused and angry.
 
Then she said, " I need help", and put her head down.
 
I then ran to see a psychiatrist, someone on our tour in Turkey, (in the dream, but in reality there was no such person)........
 
I found him, and started to relate to him how terribly sick she is and that no one has really helped her to regain her composure for all these years.  I was begging him, crying to him and trying to relate how very very serious this whole thing with her was, how traumatized she was in an early age, and how she's kept this in for all these years (over 15)......and now it's coming to a head.
 
...........................end of dream..................


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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 1/15/2007 6:45 AM
I can't even begin to tell you how proud I am of Jennifer.
 
As you can see, she doesn't have the "easiest" chart either, with natal Uranus, rising; or the Leo 15th degree M/C thought to be the "worse degree" of the zodiac.
 
Her Saturn at 0 deg.Cancer i the 8th house, is conjunct to POF, and Saturn in the 0-1 degree is considered as very critical in a cardinal sign.
 
Her Moon in the 7th, 15th deg. suggests, "phases" when it comes to personal relationships.
 
The NN in the 2nd with the 2/8th house axis, is considered to be one of the most difficult axis for the Nodes to work with or overcome, the SN then in the 8th house.,
 
See her Mars & Chiron in the 6th house of Health and Service to others.
 
I really believe that Jen, is one of those souls, who with our help, and just her OWN fortitude, and perseverance, overcame most of the negativity of her natal vibrations and chart.
 
Her first half of her life was difficult, as her older sister was very popular, very pretty, and Jen always felt rather "wilted" because of this.
When she was 14 or 15 years of age, in High School, I got a book from the Library for her for a book report she needed to do in a hurry, a biography.
 
It was about the first famous, case of AIDS in America, about the little boy named, Ryan White.. who was dying of Aids because of an infected needle for his transfusions.
 
Jen was so taken by his story, her biographical work of him, won a State Award at the time.
 
She now, (as an adult) works for Aids Research and has been a counselor to the poor, disadvantaged, homeless, sick and the otherwise, "spat upon", all her adult life, including the blind, and suicide prevention. (she use to read to the blind over the radio......as a volunteer, and has ALWAYS been a volunteer since she was 16 years old, in one way or another.)
 
(see her Venus in Aquarius, "the humanitarian".......although in a worrisome degree, the 11th, for lying or spitefulness, I can assure you, this does not apply as she is the most trustworthy & honest person I know.
 
This is the chart of someone who "overcame" any negative vibration as only a Soul who is focused can do. (so that's why I'm so proud of her).........and shows us that anyone can overcome, if they put their  heart & soul and focus into it.
 
Her Mars & Chiron in the "6th - Service to others", is where her best traits have unfolded.  The Saturn in the 8th, is working with the dying......(Alan Oken speaks of t his placement).
 
I'd like to think her Jupiter on the I/C (cusp of the 4th house), maximum intesnity of the 15th degree is her very courageous & giving nature, which she took from  her parents, and was supported in this endeavor all the way.
 
We NEVER discouraged her, (or any of our daughters), simply gave all 3 the freedom to take any path they wished (Ralph & I have Uranus in important positions, and freedom of choice, is very important to us)...in parenting.
 
Perhaps this freedom to choose their own destinies, is somehow then connected to the younger one's "poor choices" in life., but we can only be who we are at any point in time.
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 5/28/2007 5:16 PM
Bumped............getting more & more concerned as this dream, from around Christimas, is becoming more likely the truth or the reality.
 
From all accounts of her two older sisters, both not too close to her now, as she is seemingly starting to withdraw even more then ever from them.......or have a more "sporadic, and inconsistent" relationship with both of them.
 
They are worried too., esp. Jen the middle one who just got
back with her in December this year, after my Turkey Dream.
 
Jen said to me yesterday while visiting me for a late Mother's Day because we were in Spain, that she (Jen), had an "epiphany of sorts" in the early A.M.
After Jessica's rather strange and inconsistent behavior of not walking on their daily walks in the mountain (at 6AM they'd walk before Jen goes to work, has been the new routine), but now Jess just doesn't show up, (standing her up), while Jen waits & waits for hours at her early kitchen table with 2 cups of coffee.
When she called Jess, Jess doesn't answer the telephone.
 
When she finally got ahold of her the next day, Jessica, just lied.....rather then confront the truth of her behavior.
 
Jen feels that the ephiphany she had was this:
 
..............."Mom, her life is so out of control .........the twins are a handful and she lets them run her life, the husband is seldom around (out of town a lot on business), the hatred for you & dad and blaming you for all her life's upsets,.......is the ONLY control she has as an opened option for her."
 
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This truly is so.
 
It makes perfect sense that the ONLY control, this very much out of control young woman now has is the control mechanism, she's built into her psyche that says:
"I can control my parents, and keep them away from me".....
 
I'm so sad, she is heading into a further downward spiral from all accounts.................

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 5/28/2007 5:21 PM
Jessica's chart has SATURN in the "worse degree of the zodiac," the 15th deg.of Leo.
 
Karma I suppose, but I wish I could take the pain away from her.
 
I've deleted all the superfulous messages &posts, as they only gather dust.,and takes away from the original dream thread.
 

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