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DREAMS : Dream of Twin Granddaughters
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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoon  (Original Message)Sent: 2/12/2007 5:13 PM
Last night was a really "bad" night for my husband & myself, a lot of tears and anguish concerning missing our youngest daughter & her twins (we've never even seen).......it was quite horrid, brought about because I asked my middle daughter Jen, who does now seen her sister, "Is there any indications of conscience?"......and Jen didn't understand the question (she's a very very literal person)......so it was a heartwrenching time.
 
We did learn however, in the conversation & upset (of the literal terminology misunderstanding), that the twins dad, a rather well off man, age 39 this year (I think in July); whereas my daughter is just turned 30 in January, is just like his own dad, accdg.to my daughter.      She felt upon meeting the other grandfather, a computer company owner, and his wealthy wife, (a stepmother), that they were , in her words, "All the same", all snobs.
 
Same for the twins dad, as Jen felt that they ALL only ask questions of people and NEVER ever give of themselves,
Just take.
In this case they ALL ask many questions, smile and don't reciprocate about themselves.......I said, I suppose they are "Information gatherers?"..........
 
Anyway, after this horrendous night of much tears and upset, I fell into a fitful sleep and has this dream, much of which I can no longer remember:
 

 
dream:    
 
               I was with these twin granddaughters, they were approx. 8 years old or so.  I wanted to feed them (nourish them), as they were hungry.
We went into my kitchen somewhere?.......and it was a mess, I noticed silverware out of the drawers as though someone was starting to change the silverware and clean up, but left everything "out".........
 
I was looking for food for them, in the messy place.
 
I asked the little one if she'd like some ??........as there was a place next door to us, like a BBQ place and I would go and just buy something to nourish her.  She said she likes Peanut Butter & jelly sandwiches, so I made her one instead.
 
The other little girl, walked by us, and said she wasn't hungry and didn't want anything, but seemed happy enough.
 
that's all I recall for now.
 
 

 
 
INTERPRETATION:
 
 ..........I knew right away that the "food" I was searching for, is the great feeling emotionally I've had since they were born, that we aren't in their lives to "nourish" their souls. 
Now knowing of the values and moreso of the other grandparents, I've no doubt converted this in the dream state (the unconscious realms), to wanting to nourish them, (feed them), feeling an urgency about them.
 
The dream showed me one little girl would be amenable to this (around 8 years old), and would be famished, and wanting "food", (i.e. nourishment)., but the other will not be so hungry for it.
 
I've had other dreams, similar in the past where one was very warm and came to me immediately upon meeting me for the first time, and the other was laid back, reserved & hesitant.
 
My daugher Jen tells me they are quite different , but  she only knew this lately, (after my original dreams of them)...........
 
Every now & then I do dream of them, and seem to link up with their souls, as I do with their mom.
 
I do worry that the values they will receive will be ones of confusion with their inner feelings and their outer reserve (feedback from the other grandparents)..........no doubt this worry comes out in the dream state.
 
 
 
 



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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 5/28/2007 5:08 PM
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                 Now I hear that their mom, my youngest daughter, is not doing well at all.....She is taking care of the twins, but with my difficulty.  Even having someone to help her, a nanny, and a house cleaner, she is having difficulty coping, we hear.
 
We are gettting desperate, my husband & I, in our "feelings".,for concern.
 
I think Ralph will try & see the husband, and try to let him know we are here, we aren't the ogres he has been led to believe about us, we love our daughter, and our grandchildren, and just not to push him, but let him know of our concern, (in case the worse happens, as my dreams have unfolded over the past few years, a complete mental collapse with her)...........

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 7/25/2007 1:20 AM
Ralph went to see her new husband.   It turned out as we may have thought it might, as her two sisters said that he is "very businesslike", almost not seeming to have feelings much.
 
Ralph talked with him for at least 3-4 hours......at a restaurant as they had lunch together.
 
There was no real progress made, just now at least he knows of  her past history, and if there is a problem,perhaps he will be in a better helping position then to help his wife.
 
The children, we have now heard, are "acting out"..........
 
The twins are quite different as different as day & night (according to their aunts Becky & Jen)
 
Taylor at 3 is acting out quite a bit, being naughty and not being really disciplined for it much.
Piper is the perfect one.
 
How can twins be so starkly different then? to this extent???
 
There is a theory in Astrology that the twins (in this case they are paternal twins)
but with Gemini Rising.
 
Perhaps as in astrological circles, they are portraying one half (each) of the whole psyche? They share the same chart, but are extremely different.,accdg.to all we've heard.
 
Because of this worry about them, it brought about another dream, I'll post next.

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 7/25/2007 2:32 AM
One twin is doing the "acting out", being quite bad, but the other one is the contrast and "very good" in her behavior patterns.
 
In the dream I had, no doubt spurred on because of the concern, and the neglect of Ralph & myself, I dreamt that I went to a large type of business type of building, where I knew little Piper was in a crib.
I went to see her and try to take her out for awhile as I felt she was being neglected and all alone.
 
As I approached this place there was a big set of "double doors".,inside and I knew behind the double doors her crib was there.
 
I asked someone where she was, and asserted I was her grandmother come to take her for the day.
They said"behind the double doors" so I entered there, and there she was in a crib with her "diaper soiled"........so I changed it.
 
She was very mature for her age (3 years of age), and there was nearby her a boy around 12-13, much older then she.
 
When I told her "I'm grandma, and I've come to take you out for the day, we'll have fun and go shopping to a toy store".......or whatever I said to her, she looked at the boy, who was playing with his toys and then turned to me, and said she didn't want to go with me, that she didn't like me.
 
I was very devastated.....
 
End of the dream.
 
 
Interpretation:
 
...........I think this was an easy one to intepret, as it simply reflected the concern in the daily life, the news that one twin acts out, and the other is very good (by contrast)......but yet in my mind I wonder again about the same birth Natal Chart and pre-dispositions and traits.
 
The rejection of our daughter (the twins mother), towards her family in particular Ralph & me, then created in the dream, the child saying "I don't like you"..
 
I suppose the lesson I'm trying to take away in this life from all this horror, is that we should not become so attached anyway, to people, places & things.......
 
I've posted for instance only yesterday, the newly translated (in the past 20 years or so) into English; "The Gospel of Mary", in which Jesus tells Mary Magdalene, the same thing......that it is attachments, on this plane of reality, to which keeps us coming back (reincarnations)over & over.
 
It's very much follows the teachings of the Buddha.
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 7/25/2007 2:34 AM
Puns in the dream:
 
"Double Doors" one set of them , beyond which the child was in the crib and neglected (soiled diaper)
is a PUN for the twinhood.  The double door closed then in the dream.
 
The fact that she was in a large "business establishment" behind the double doors, says that this is how my subconscious mind, sees the father, as a kind of establishment(businesslike), as when my husband went to see him to talk with him at his place of business, plus from everything we've heard, he is very "businesslike" as a person.
 
 

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