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DREAMS : a Huge underground tunnel dream
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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoon  (Original Message)Sent: 10/10/2007 6:49 PM
From what I could recall of this dream, it seemed to have 2 segments to it.
 
The first was standing outside, (in the light of day).......and a large construction site, had a few men there....One of them said he was selling a desk (like a child's desk), all wood, with shelving, and when I asked where it was to see it, he said, underground, in the tunnel he was working above the ground.
 
It was $23.00, so an unusually good price for an all real wood desk for a child.
 
I told my daughter Becky, who was there, but she said, "we already have a plastic one"....for the kids.
 
Then I said to Ralph, - Gee, it's a shame that she's not interested as it's such a good deal for a "Real" wood desk......let's go underground and look at what it looks like.
 
We proceeded "underground, down the steps in to the tunnel".....and I was shocked at how nice the entire thing was, as it was like a real living quarters, very very organized, boxes on the sides, but full of "stuff" that this man or his buddies were selling.
 
So I said to Ralph, " He has quite a deal going for himself, having a regular job, (above ground), that pays well, but yet is selling all this stuff, a lifetime's worth of stuff that is underground.....in this tunnel.
 
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After this, I recall being in either this tunnel, or another kind of basement place, (below ground), whereas I was finding all kinds of "fossils"......tiny little fossils, that I could put into envelopes, (they were white envelopes) and I'd send these envelopes to the top (above ground)
 
I recall that I finally came to a recognition, that they weren't supposed to be removed, (but left hidden, underground)
 
End of dream
 
 


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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 10/10/2007 6:54 PM
The part with Becky and the "plastic desk" that she said, they were happy with and refused to even consider a wood one with shelving, for the kids,
is "typical" of Becky, as we perceive her to be, (as our eldest daughter)
in that if we say, "it's white" Becky will say "but I see black"
in other words, in an effort to be "seperate" from her parents, she deliberatly goes out of  her way to see , say or do or think the opposite.
 
When she was little we use to call her "Big shot Becky",
as she ALWAYS had this very very independent nature & streak about her.,needing to be the one with all the answers.
 
She's never changed.
 
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so this part, is kind of how I see her in waking life......and possibly because Ralph bought her a nice small microphone for the computer with a video thing that she could hook up, since they moved away recently, so we could BOTH see the kids & talk with them (over the computer), but Becky has refused, thus far to hook up the microphone, instead making excuses, from "oh I can't find it", to "maybe tomorrow" to "I'm busy today"........
instead of just saying, she truly doesn't want to HEAR our voices???
or what we have to say, she'd rather have a voiceless apparatus
 
so the dream of her refusing to even look at the desk "makes sense" in light of this .

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 10/10/2007 7:02 PM
The 2nd part having to do with entering the tunnel underground,
and seeing ALL the STUFF......stored everywhere, to sell.
Ralph helped me with this part of the interpretation, which appears to be that I'm "examining," unconscious motivations of people, everywhere, especially as concerns a "mass" of consciousness, I.E. in regards to War which grieves us terribly.
 
Seeing then, the "subconscious terrain", of a tunnel, and the stored things that people keep there, all very much like a living space, but full of stuff......Enriching themselves of "low value" from the underground,,,,maybe less desireable areas, not the Higher Ideals, (or above ground) in order to compromise themselves, for personal gain & enrichment.
 
Perhaps a degrading of morality,(in general), such as Ayn Rand morality, in enriching SELF putting self first
 
(If anyone read the Ayn Rand thread) then they'd be familiar with what I'm expressing.
 
Apparently, when I went to bed last night, one of the last things Ralph & I had discussed earlier was about this type of "self-enriching consciousness" that mankind is immersed in all the more, thus, the dream from that vantage point, is showing me these kinds of understanding of thought, via dream symbols.
 
 
(the tunnel, is the subconscous thoughts)
(the "STUFF" organized and in the tunnel, is the STUFF of man's own self-enriching thought patterns, trying to sell to others)

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 10/10/2007 7:04 PM

The last part of the dream, or the basement, underground area in which I found all these fossils.......(very very old, so old they were fossilized, like ancient fishes)

...............I see this as again the same theme of morality, becoming,

almost, like "a fossil" something of the ancient past almost, in today's world.

The underground place where I was recovering them (and putting them into white envelopes) is trying to restore some of the older values & morals and reminding others to do the same.

Bringing them up to the light of day (from the underground)


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