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DREAMS : Extensive dreaming
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From: Proud Libran  (Original Message)Sent: 2/16/2008 10:57 AM
Hi,

Since I barely joined this groups, I'll try to experiment a little to see how things work here.

This night I had many dreams and can recall dreaming seven different scenarios. Some of those I can only describe in one sentence, since I don't recall much and only have an idea what it is was all about.

One such scene is that I was looking at a Chinese town called Golden Gate (???!!!) and someone was describing it for me (as if that person was a tourist guide). The monuments I saw there, reminded me of the architecture in the Ancient Greece.

In another scene I was dreaming being in a huge aquarium with my parents and my little sister (she is 7 years old, 19 years younger than me). The ceiling of this aquarium was very bright and all the walls were a fish tank. We were looking at these fish and my sister and I were "swimming" in the air just as fish were swimming in the water. We didn't do that out of joy for moving in the air, it was simply to better see the fish in the upper and lower part of the fish tank. My little sister then noticed a quite big, kind of yellow-golden fish and wanted to have it. We explained to her this was a rare species and difficult to get so she couldn't have it.

Yet another scene. One of my ex-school mates from elementary school was explaining to us (and some other ex-school mates) how she had gotten pregnant when she was twenty and had 3 children since. She even adopted a child of her mother(?). Anyway, then she showed us her belly (because she was pregnant again) and said she could talk to her baby. I remember seing how her belly was moving and changing form (was kind of suprized, because she had only been pregnant for 4 months or so). Anyway, we could hear the baby talking. She asked it how many fingers it had and it said eightysomething. She repeated her question and now the answer was eight point something. I remember her questioning whether she still wanted to have this child, because apparently not everything was going to be ok with it.

Let me just briefly describe one more scene. I remember it felt deserted. Me, a friend of mine and her best friend were riding bicycles over corpses (nothing else was there). I remember (human) corpses being everywhere and I even didn't feel afraid (as I would do, had I been conscious). I remember even being surprized with what ease we could ride bicycles over them. I would imagine our wheels would often get stuck and we would fall, but we didnt. (We were trying to get somewhere, we weren't doing this for fun).

There were many more, but it's difficult to make a story out of them. I see how some of these scenarios could be connected with each other, but don't really remember that there was actually a transition between them.

I really don't know what to think of my dreams. They don't make any sense. What I noticed in the last two nights is that there are always some ex-school mates present in my dreams (eighter from elementary or high school, never university).

I have to add here, that I am trying to conclude my studies at this time. I have great trouble with it since 2 years and I have been stagnating ever since. I never dream of colleagues from university though, it's always elementary or high school (I guess because everything was ok back then - in terms of personal development and progress in life).

Do you have any ideas what these dreams could mean? Can you at least point me to a direction where to look for solutions? Perhaps all this is just meaningless and my brain is simply entertaining myself. :)

Anyhow, hope to read from you soon.

Proud Libran


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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 2/16/2008 6:00 PM
Ref:  I see how some of these scenarios could be connected with each other, but don't really remember that there was actually a transition between them.
 
 
Ref:  I have to add here, that I am trying to conclude my studies at this time. I have great trouble with it since 2 years and I have been stagnating ever since. I never dream of colleagues from university though, it's always elementary or high school (I guess because everything was ok back then - in terms of personal development and progress in life).
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Off the top of my head, I'd say that they DO, connect, one with the other in this way, although it of course, doesn't transition one to the other.
 
Time, (for instance) is only experienced here on this plane of awareness, hence the transition part not necessary to take into account.
 
The "connect" in the way that they each have to do with life & death; with digging deeper for answers then the everyday conscious level usually accomodates us with (events & people and situations)........
 
They "appear" to be dreams that are urging you on, and reflecting to you, that life and death aren't really so apart from each other as you might be led to believe (consciously)
 
For instance:
 
1) about the Aquarium.  YES, we are "as fish in the aquarium" we can see them, (outer life) and they see us (inner life)......and you were marveling at it all with your sister. The knowledge of this and understanding of it.
The "Air part".......is very spiritual, in it's awareness & awakening part of your consciousness, that did indeed , on "another level" in the dream realm, truly did partake of a kind of floating sensation with your sister's soul.
 
Ref:   We were looking at these fish and my sister and I were "swimming" in the air just as fish were swimming in the water.
 
 
My husband and (now dead, mother), always had floating dreams and flying dreams. Both of them.
He still does occassionally and reports they are the most freeing and most pleasurable of all his dreams.
 
Take this as such.....
 
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Speaking of "freeing & pleasurable" as in floating or Flying dreams, it's very hard to be "free" when we are tied to school & study.
Even Einstein remarked, that if it weren't for school, his mind would roam free:
 
"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education."
Albert Einstein
 
so this may have to do with the feelings of the burden you feel, while your mind,(the larger mind), is trying to get beneath the surface stuff of waking life.? I'll need to check your natal to comment further on this however.
 

cont'd comments on the DReams
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 2/16/2008 6:06 PM
2) the 2nd dream of the high school acquaintance, and her pregnancy and the baby she was carrying.,has to do with again, the thinking outside of the box, about Life & Death.
The fetus and the 80 fingers, then 8 something, (knowing there was a potential for problems) and wondering about having this child, is recognizing that (on another level) the higher plane in which the subconscious mind is a part;
Wondering whether when we have children, progeny of our own,
and Life is not (as we prefer, "perfect") in every way, that most poeple prefer not to be part of the learning that imperfections do help us to grow by.
 
To be "imperfect", (as the potential of the baby was).........is then, a turn=-off to most.
Perhaps the school, and the waking problems with it, has a touch of this in your psyche and therefore, you are working with the problems it engenders, (as an imperfection) somehow? in the dream state.
 
The "being born".....or the pregnancy part is simply a symbol of carrying within a person a seed of either "perfection or imperfection", but truly, all is relative to the eye of the beholder in the end isn't it??
 
Imperfections bring spiritual growth, as perfections seldom do.(we take for granted those who are perfect in every way and we all desire to be such).........but imperfections bring out the growth part of the soul, trying to achieve and overcome what is not made perfect.
 
I think it makes more sense to see imperfections in life as necessary to catapult a soul......and those souls who take them on, are really the braver ones, then those born to be perfect in life.
In other words, I think should those "less perfect" achieve by overcoming their burdens, they are "further ahead" then those who pretend perfection .
 
All souls are on the road however to a perfected state.
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 2/16/2008 6:09 PM
3rd dream: (same idea here)
 
"Wheels getting stuck", and worried about this, is just the wheels of the mind, (the bicycles being emblematic of waking consciousness) as are cars, autos, trains, any mode of transportation thru life are.
 
Here is a song I always liked by John Lennon the late singer and songwriter:
 
                   WATCHING THE WHEELS GO BY
 
People say Im crazy doing what Im doing
Well they give me all kinds of warnings to save me from ruin
When I say that Im o.k. well they look at me kind of strange
Surely youre not happy now you no longer play the game

People say Im lazy dreaming my life away
Well they give me all kinds of advice designed to enlighten me
When I tell them that Im doing fine watching shadows on the wall
Dont you miss the big time boy youre no longer on the ball

Im just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round
I really love to watch them roll
No longer riding on the merry-go-round
I just had to let it go

Ah, people asking questions lost in confusion
Well I tell them theres no problem, only solutions
Well they shake their heads and they look at me as if Ive lost my mind
I tell them theres no hurry
Im just sitting here doing time

Im just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round
I really love to watch them roll
No longer riding on the merry-go-round
I just had to let it go
I just had to let it go
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 2/16/2008 6:14 PM
Dreaming over & over about younger days, this of course has to do with being freer to just "be" in life, then the reponsibilities of being older and decidedly more to worry about and be required of us.
 
Your subconscious mind is reflecting and observing as well as
correalting this information....
We move thru time, and need to leave the past behind us, (as much as possible) of course.
As Edgar Cayce reminds us, that Lots wife, "turned into salt" by looking back ........in regret of what she was leaving...
 
It's just a reminder, an analogy of not looking back so much, with such longing, emotional longing for the freedom that childhood gave us.
 
Your sister in your life, being so much younger then you, on the daily everday life, you see her freedom, and long for it again in your own life. (possibly?)...........
 
 

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From: Proud LibranSent: 2/17/2008 12:05 PM
Hey Deb,

Thanks for your interpretations, I must say they all somehow "feel" true. Do you know what I mean? It'd be difficult for me to say all you wrote is 100 % true, but it does "feel" right.

You know I have problems with perfection:) I even posted one thread on astro.com What makes me so critical of myself (and you responded first)... :) I also feel I look backwards too much... and have difficulty accepting responsability for my life (as you suggest, I'd rather be carefree as my litle sis - this is slowly changing now though, can feel it). I was always doing what was expected from me and never really thought about what I want and what is good for me. In the last two years I got stuck, because for the first time I wouldn't listen to others... Of course there is a bad side to that, because this time has been rather unproductive in terms of university, job, outer life, but it made me realize that it is I who will be in charge of my life and my efforts can make me have what I want to have. I am also aware that I am responsible for my luck and don't point at others when something is not right in my life (as I would do before).

Anyway...

Like your insights on general issues, when you identify the meaning of a dream, part of a dream. I also read some of the other posts here in Dreams part of your group. I already knew your husband dreams flying too :)

I love my little sister ever since she was born and even before that (unlike my other sister - 2 years younger than me - , who wasn't really enthousiastic when we were told our family was going to expand...). Don't know why (Leo Moon? :D). Before she goes to bed, I read books to her. This is our thing. :)

Thanks for your effort Deb,
Proud Libran (I sure am :))

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 2/18/2008 12:47 AM
Your very welcome, and I hope you continue to post  your dreams for more insight, both from yourself, and for us.
 
The dreamer MUST of course know when it "feels" right, as the dreamer is the final determiner of his own dreams, but oftentimes, some of us can give hints that might fit or not.
 
Deb, aka, CLM

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