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From: MSN NicknameKchango_man89  (Original Message)Sent: 2/29/2008 2:58 AM
i was in the ocean, at night, no land around, waves passing by, pretty big i could feel the motion around my body. lots of stars in the sky, blinking softly.
i was accompained by 5 other people if i recall, im pretty sure i knew all of them, mostly the people I spend my time with(friends i could say).
an eclipse im perceiven, no, an asteroid, a planet falling from the sky, water conglomarated, inmense, the size of a planet. crushing into the ocean, 3 sisters behind it fall randomly.

a reality, an entrance to another dimension, we swam fastidly, to the nearest "bubble", me and jonhny.

I am in a neighborhodd. reminds me of the typical american neighborhood, its nights, there are cars parked, i open a door, i walk inside a reunion, many guests around, nobody noticing nobody familiar.

a siren, everyone runs away, i run to the second floor, i feel pursuid, i feel an invader of a foreing place.

i look out the window, i see a shoooter on a mountain, i move backwards.
johny walks into the window.
i scream at him desperatly, fearcfull.
he´s shot, falls into the floor
i see him, hes still alive, very wounded.
i wake up.





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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 2/29/2008 5:43 AM
The first part sounds very Neptuneish.......meaning, nebulous, unreal and in the realm of other then earthly.,
 
You and Johnny? Who is Johnny? is this someone you know in waking life?
 
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A siren is a warning sign.......like police or ambulance, but its a warning.
Everyone runs......feeling like you are an invader in a foreign place..)?
Because it was in America I suppose...
 
It sounds like a warning to you to be careful, where you go and who you associate with....

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From: MSN NicknameKchango_man89Sent: 2/29/2008 6:50 AM
i don’t think it has anything to do with America.
Did i ever tell you i lived in America for 3 and a half years?

jonhnie is a friend of a friend, and ive known him for about a year or so. he studies philosophy,

Maybe he’s the trouble, in relation to your nebulous,
he’s a Pisces, maybe that could relate to him.


ive had some chats with him, yet never really gotten too close to him, even though throughout February we’ve established more communication.

Pd: i dreamed this 2 months ago, never really understood the dream.

my perception of him, was very negative.
i have a small theory of his psychological state.

its hard for me to look at his eyes when i speak to him, or when he speaks to me, i tend to look the other way, it got to the point that i would criticize myself, asking myself (am i afraid of him? why cant i look at his eyes? and i experimented looking back at him, because i felt challenged in a way, or harassed by his focus.
im very sensitive when i look at peoples eyes, i tend loose my concentration.

im aware that his mother died when he was younger, he suffered, and from what i have seen he reflects this grief externally towards other people. in my case i could feel the weight, a negative state.
he is very irregular, he can react in very unusual ways, with other people, he tends to be rude, with strangers, he is very exclusive with people, he seems to have prejudgments towards ignorance, superficiality and spirituality i would say.
on February we had more interaction in small reunions, more intimately. he has an outstanding intellectual, but i still perceived those eyes, a feeling of anxiety, and i would absorb it like a sponge. i come to realize now, that he can be a very nice guy, where there is a very soft and light personality, he also has the ability to capture this personality over others, some sort of hypnotize distress.

i tend to avoid seen him constantly because of this phenomenon. and i think it may be affection my friend as well.

his a Libra ascendant Aries, i think he’s hypnotized, he speaks like jonhie, acts like him. When their together, his personality changes, imitating that mean sense towards others, and this frustrates me quite a bit, i feel disturbed when i witness an offense directed to someone, even the slightest bit.

Having said this, we can relate it to my dream.

in the first part, when im floating in the ocean everything is magical in its own surreal nature, everything is placid, separated from the world.

in the second instance, there is a feeling of turbulence, when the spheres fall from space, everyone hustles, afraid of loosing the train, because inside we knew we were lost, or at list I knew. We knew it would take us somewhere..

when i entered this new dimension, if i recall correctly, straight of, we knew we were intruders, (well me and jonhie, since we went through the same sphere).


We entered the house and from then on.. the sirens began.






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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 2/29/2008 5:29 PM
Thanks for giving us the dream Context (very important) as the symbols are certainly yours from your subconscious mind,
 
Ref:       Having said this, we can relate it to my dream.

in the first part, when im floating in the ocean everything is magical in its own surreal nature, everything is placid, separated from the world.

in the second instance, there is a feeling of turbulence, when the spheres fall from space, everyone hustles, afraid of losing the train, because inside we knew we were lost, or at least I knew. We knew it would take us somewhere..

when i entered this new dimension, if i recall correctly, straight of, we knew we were intruders, (well me and jonhie, since we went through the same sphere).


We entered the house and from then on.. the sirens began.
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You may not agree with me here, but I'll digress anyway with a few thoughts that come to me, and perhaps, you'll get something from it anyway, even if not total agreement of the symbology:
 
1)Again, the SIRENS are a warning to you..........
 
2) Johnny acts almost as a mirror to you, to reflect on yourself, and try to  understand your own motives, conditioning, etc. in life.and that is why  he appears in your dream in a pivitol spot.
 
3)You say he is a Pisces?........if so, then Your own NN in Pisces is being activated to try to learn more about the various "conditions" in life such as one of Intellectual Linear thought (Virgo S/N) and the more nebulous, and hard to grasp, (hence averting his eyes, this is a symbol meant FOR YOU) to grasp..........and ask why....
 
4) What I highlighted above in blue, is very important to understanding this dream, I think.
 
As it is a PUN or "play on words".........
 
The train is the "vehicle", for transporting consciousness, which  you used here.
We can use automobiles, bicylcles, we can use trains, we can use any number of conveyances in our subconscious state which all relate to consciousness being conveyed in the physical state.
 
Take the train then, as a metaphor or Pun, meaning "your consciousness, being moved throughout, BUT, unlike a car with one or two passengers in it, you are speaking of a Train, therefore, Multiple passengers..........
This then 'might" mean, the group you associate with..... (as even the idea of both johnny and the LIbra guy, (Aries Rising), comes to mind consciously, so, it's about the group...
 
"Losing the train and the ride"..........then causes a panic in you, and especially the blued in darker, "Knowing we'd be lost" OR "knowing we WERE lost", is very important. and sounds like a message to you from your sub-conscious higher self.
 
Take the entire scene then, as being warned, i.e. the "Sirens"......and this message that the entire group (whatever they are into), may indeed be "lost"......(for lack of a better word, ) try this concept:
 
"The Blind leading the Blind".....(as we say in america)

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 3/1/2008 5:54 AM
Alejandro:
 
 You MUST listen to this recording of the great Classical Guitarists,
"Los Indios Talajaros"
 
 
give it a minute, (about one minute 27 seconds) into the video, you will see them do the incredible......when they were younger men .
They are  two brothers.,who "found" a guitar as boys in the jungles of Brazil.
 

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 3/1/2008 6:00 AM
 
And for your listening Pleasure......"Tico-Tico"
 

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From: MSN NicknameKchango_man89Sent: 3/2/2008 5:08 AM
In concern with my dream i find your interpretation quite agreeable, surprisingly just yesterday my friend spoke to me about johnie with some concern, and i decided to expose my opinion on the subject. i spoke to him about the eye contact and the anxiety i perceived and i turns out he was quite astonished because we shared the same opinion.
i warned him, not to be affected by johnies personality, his humoristic influence, all of which my friend seems to admit.


I guess that’s how my dream had to end :)

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From: MSN NicknameKchango_man89Sent: 3/2/2008 5:16 AM
have you ever listened to john mclaughlin?
im digging a lot into jazz,

also listen to Paco de lucia? hes mostly flamenco..

you like guitars? check this masterpiece..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cadbYIzhqQ

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