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EDGAR CAYCE : Cayce and Earth Changes Predictions
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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoon  (Original Message)Sent: 1/8/2007 7:25 PM
Since time, is all a matter of perspective , relativity, and our plane certainly has laws which gives us a direction, or a perception of "The arrow of time" , which goes in only one direction, many people have over the years found fault with Cayce's predictions from the trance state.
 
Although his health prognostications, for both herbals remedies, and even his healings and prognostications of many future events are right on, many hits, (more then misses), having one of the highest rates ever of a Psychic, he is still criticized, as is the A.R.E. for supporting and not clearly explaining, the so called "missed earth changes", prognositcations.
 
First of all, to clarify, there really are some serious enough considerations, IMO, that the A.R. E. is correct about, and not only the fact that time is mallable, time is "relative", and from the spiritual state, cannot be determined exactly as to future events (any more then in an Astrology chart), but rather only "probable events for the future, versus, "set in concrete" definites, for a future event".
 
This is not just an attempt at "justifying" why certain events didn't happen on exactly certain dates that he saw back in the 1930s or 1940s and was asked to define with exact dates for the future.
 
Without the u nderstanding that time is "all happening at once", and isn't even real, how then can someone try & pigeonhole a psychic and demand an accounting of specifics as to "time?" and/or timing? of events?
 
This then shows clearly the crticism is unwarranted, (at least it shows it to me), as being a simplistic viewpoint, of belief in a straight "Arrow of time" only.,and not the understanding that time and mind, (the creator of time to begin with), work in unison together to create the perception.
 
i.e. as Quantum Physics now shows us, "The observed is actually the observer"......in theory.(and no doubt in practice)
 
So, when someone asked Cayce, "tell us when this earth change will commence, and he told the, "from this perspective this vantage point when you are asking me, it "looks like the year 2,000 or 2010",  he cemented his own negative Press by caving in to the demands, even though he himself always caveated in his readings that "Time" as you perceive it, is an Illusion.
 
He constantly reminded us as well that our very acts, en masse (as a country, a nation, an individual), can change the course of the "probable outcome" and even delay any given event.........(again, time is mallable)
 
 
.........so in light of this understanding, when I saw today that another Volcano is erupting, I tried to look up the earth changes warnings, and I'll post them in the next post.
 
He didn't mention Monserratt, but it's still important (in my view) to pay attention to the earth and it's belching, as it and we are part of the same .....(material)and is therefore, a "reflection" of our consciousness, (en masse)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 1/8/2007 7:29 PM
The Earth Changes, as they are termed, are "excerpts taken out of context from various readings over the many years," so should be taken in that understanding, that they are:
 
1)Out of Context
2) a span of many years between them, so many relate to WW2 as well
3) the mindset of man, as Cayce said, has often in history of the earth (such as the story of Noah, as Cayce pointed to, or the story of finding his cousin Lot, as "one honest man" or "one righteous soul", can change the history of things to come
 
 
EXCERPTED from the link:
 

But Cayce's most striking predictions -- particularly in view of many other prophecies relating to the approaching end of the millennium -- concern dramatic changes in the Earth's surface in the period of 1958 to 1998. The cause of these he put down to a tilting in the Earth's rotational axis which he said would begin in 1936.

The first sign of this change in the Earth's core would be the "breaking up of some conditions" in the South Pacific and "sinking or rising" in the Mediterranean or Etna area. Cayce forecast that, by the end of the century, New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco would be destroyed. He said that "the greater portion of Japan must go into the sea" at this time, and that northern Europe would be "changed as in the twinkling of an eye." In 1941, Cayce predicted that lands would appear in the Atlantic and the Pacific in the coming years, and that "the coastline now of many a land will be the bed of the ocean. Even many of the battlefields of (1941) will be ocean, will be the sea, the bays, the lands over which the new order will carry on their trade as with one another."

"Watch New York, Connecticut and the like. Many portions of the east coast will be disturbed, as well as many portions of the west coast, as well as the central portion of the United States. Los Angeles, San Francisco, most of all these will be among those that will be destroyed before New York, or New York City itself, will in the main disappear. This will be another generation though, here; while the southern portions of Carolina, Georgia, these will disappear. This will be much sooner. The waters of the Great Lakes will empty into the Gulf of Mexico."

Cayce prophesied that the Earth's axis would be shifted by the year 2001, bringing on reversals in climate, "so that where there has been a frigid or semi-tropical climate, there will be a more tropical one, and moss and fern will grow." By this time, he indicated, a new cycle would begin.

Edgar Cayce's last reading on 17 September 1944, was for himself. He was now receiving thousands of requests for assistance. His own readings had repeatedly warned him that he should not try to undertake more than two sessions a day. But many of the letters he received were from mothers worried about their sons on the battlefields, and Cayce felt he could not refuse them his aid. His last reading told him that the time had come for him to stop working and rest. On New Year's Day, 1945, he announced that he would be buried on the fifth of January. He was right.

Ten years earlier, Cayce had written a brief account of his work. In it, he said, "The life of a person endowed with such powers is not easy. For more than forty years now I have been giving readings to those who came seeking help. Thirty-five years ago the jeers, scorn and laughter were even louder than today. I have faced the laughter of ignorant crowds, the withering scorn of tabloid headlines, and the cold smirk of self-satisfied intellectuals. But I have also known the wordless happiness of little children who have been helped, the gratitude of fathers and mothers and friends... I believe that the attitude of the scientific world is gradually changing towards these subjects."

Earth Changes

Edgar Cayce predicted that the Great Lakes would empty into the Gulf of Mexico in the future and that ancient repositories would be discovered when people reached the appropriate level of consciousness. The three repositories mentioned are Egypt, the Bimini area, and the Yucatan.

"The earth will be broken up in the western portion of America. The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in the twinkling of an eye. Land will appear off the east coast of America. When there is the first breaking up of some conditions in the South Sea and those as apparent in the sinking or rising of that that's almost opposite same, or in the Mediterranean, and the Etna area, then we many know it has begun."

"If there are greater activities in Vesuvius or Pelee, then the southern coast of California and the areas between Salt Lake and the southern portions of Nevada, we may expect, within the three months following same, inundation by the earthquakes. But these are to be more in the Southern than the Northern Hemisphere."

"There will be the upheavals in the Arctic and in the Antarctic that will make for the eruption of volcanoes in the torrid areas, and there will be the shifting then of the poles -- so that where there has been those of a frigid or the semi-tropical will become the more tropical, and moss and fern will grow.

"As to conditions in the geography of the world, of the country -- changes here are gradually coming about. No wonder, then, that the entity feels the need, the necessity for change of central location. For, many portions of the east coast will be disturbed, as well as many portions of the west coast, as well as the central portion of the U.S. In the next few years land will appear in the Atlantic as well as in the Pacific. And what is the coast line now of many a land will be the bed of the ocean. Even many battle fields of the present will be ocean, will be the seas, the bays, the lands over which The New World Order will carry on their trade as one with another.

"Portions of the now east coast of New York, or New York City itself, will in the main disappear. This will be another generation, though, here; while the southern portions of Carolina, Georgia -- these will disappear. This will be much sooner. The waters of the lakes will empty into the Gulf, rather than the waterway over which such discussions have been recently made. It would be well if the waterway were prepared, but not for that purpose for which it is at present being considered. Then the area where the entity is now located (Virginia Beach) will be among the safety lands, as will be portions of what is now Ohio, Indiana and Illinois, and much of the southern portion of Canada and the eastern portion of Canada; while the western land -- much of that is to be disturbed as, of course much in other lands."

"Strifes will arise through the period. Watch for them near the Davis Strait in the attempts there for the keeping of the life line to land open. Watch for them in Libya and in Egypt, in Ankara and in Syria, through the straits about those areas above Australia, in the Indian Ocean and the Persian Gulf."

It is also understood, comprehended by some that a new order of conditions is to arise; there must be a purging in high places as well as low; and that there must be the greater consideration of the individual, so that each soul being his brother's keeper. Then certain circumstances will come about in the political, the economic, and whole relationships to which a leveling will occur or a greater comprehension of the need for it.

"... for changes are coming, this may be sure -- an evolution or revolution in the ideas of religious thought. The basis of it for the world will eventually come out of Russia. Not communism, no! But rather that which is the basis of the same as the Christ taught -- his kind of communism."

                         

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 1/8/2007 7:36 PM
Cayce prophesied that the Earth's axis would be shifted by the year 2001,
 
(this has essentially happened according to the scientists and geo-science studies at Johns Hopkins University
 
 
from this link a site talking about the change in the earth's axis in 2005 with that last underwater earthquake in the Indian Ocean:
 
 
Yes, the news (and there were actually a few articles on it weeks after), and research shows the Earth's axis shifted/wobbled a bit by about about 2cm give or take. We also lost some time on our day (as much as 2+ microseconds from estimates).
 
and this refrain:
 
A 1 to 2 degree shift would have massive repercussions, the Indian Ocean earthquake caused a 1 to 2.4 inch shift but the affects of the moons gravity quickly countered that. So any impact from that would of finished months ago. Also the earth's axis moves round in a circle of 3 to 15 metres over about 435 days so a few inches doesn't make much different
 
You do understand that 2cm is negligible - right?

A sudden 2° shift however would be cataclysmic.
 
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You do understand that if an earthquake can me the entire Earth wobble on its axis, it can't be so "neglibible." Plus, that's usually what happens in the beginning. People say "oh, it's nothing siginicant. It's not important enough for us to look at so why waste time?" Then, days, weeks, months, even years later, something happens, and then they're "Oh... looks like we overlooked one small detail."

Wise thing to do: Take everything into account and explore all possibilites and leave none on the ignore list. History repeats itself.

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 1/8/2007 7:39 PM
Re: Cayce's prediction:
 
 
 
 
                     There will be upheavals in the Arctic and Antarctic that will cause the eruption of volcanoes in the torrid areas, and pole shift.�?/FONT>
 
A shifting of the Earth’s poles has been predicted to occur within the next few years by a number of psychics, including the renowned Edgar Cayce. This certainly is not a scientific prediction, but some scientists believe that it is at least possible that this could happen at some future date, and perhaps has happened many times in our planet’s past. Whether or not we could survive a physical shifting of the Earth’s poles is open to debate; it could be much more cataclysmic than described above.
 

There are two ways of considering what is meant by a pole shift:

  1. A geological or axial shift in which the Earth’s crust literally slips around its molten core �?like a loose peel on an orange �?altering the positions of land masses with respect to the planet’s rotation on its axis. This could happen by a few degrees or by many degrees. Antarctica could wind up at the equator and Miami could be the new North Pole. The effects on our civilization could be devastating.
  2. A shift of the magnetic poles only. As it is, the Earth’s magnetic north (the north that compasses point to) is not exactly the same as the true North Pole. This magnetic pole is not fixed and can move. In fact, scientists are fairly certain that it has shifted by as much as 180 degrees several times in the past. This change may be sudden or it may be gradual, taking place over hundreds or even thousands of years. The effects on life on the planet would probably be minimal, affecting perhaps the migratory or homing instincts of some animals.

Unfortunately (if you put stock in such things), Cayce was referring to a shift of the first type. He wrote: “There will be upheavals in the Arctic and Antarctic that will cause the eruption of volcanoes in the torrid areas, and pole shift.�?And when asked what great change or the beginning of what change, if any, is to take place in the earth in the year 2000 to 2001 A.D, he replied, “When there is a shifting of the poles. Or a new cycle begins.�?Interestingly, there has been much in the news lately about the drastic receding of Antarctica’s glaciers and ice shelves.


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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 1/8/2007 7:40 PM
2004 Indian Ocean earthquake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[18] It also caused the Earth to minutely "wobble" on its axis by up to 2.5 cm (1 in) in ... [46] According to USAID, the US has pledged additional funds in ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake - 161k
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 1/8/2007 7:44 PM
2 centimeters?............according to scientists here, it was 6 Centimeters!
 
Italian scientists say Asian quakes cause Earth's axis shifted
www.chinaview.cn 2004-12-29 05:43:34

    ROME, Dec. 28 (Xinhuanet) -- Italian space researchers said on Tuesday that the earthquake in Asia two days ago was so powerful that it shifted the axis around which the earth revolves.

    "It was so violent that it modified in a considerable way the inclination of the axis of terrestrial rotation," said scientists at an Italian Space Agency centre in the southern town of Matera.

    According to Giuseppe Bianco, one of the geological experts whospecialize in finding the exact position of geographical points, the axis moved by about five or six centimetres.

    "The variation observed is very small and I don't think it could have any repercussions on the climate," he said.

    On Sunday, huge tidal waves killed more than 50,000 people in some Asian countries including Sri Lanka, India, Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia the Maldives and Myanmar.


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