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Edgar Cayce gave this reading for a man, telling him essentially from what plane or realm he arrived into this lifetime.,as well as saying that even though the records were burned, as to his time of birth, that the "body" was born at 10:58AM BUT the soul arrived and took over this body at 12Noon.......... This is the ONLY reading amongst thousands I know of that was this peculiar.......but perhaps we'll come across others over time here. Perhaps with this information at hand, we can study this chart and "see what we can see?" TEXT OF READING 234-1 M 47
This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at Phillips Hotel, Room 115, Dayton, Ohio, this 20th day of May, 1924, in accordance with request made by self - Mr. [234].
P R E S E N T
Edgar Cayce; Linden Shroyer, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Mr. Abraham Rosenberg and Harry D. Liebschutz.
R E A D I N G
Born March 2, 1877, in Cincinnati, Ohio. Time of Reading 11:00 A. M. ..., Ohio.
1. EC: Yes, we have the body here, and the record as has been made and that which may be made. We have also the record with the manifestations as exhibited in the entity with the will and that condition as is shown respecting conditions surrounding the individual, in reference to the astrological conditions at the time and the effect as has been shown in the present entity's sojourn here.
2. As to the time, we find this was at 10:58 A. M. and the completion of the entity, soul, spirit and the physical completed near noon.
3. As to the planetary conditions and those affecting this life, irrespective of will's influence in same, are as these:
4. We find the sojourn from that of Mercury, with the influence of Mars and of Jupiter, and Venus and Saturn being those in both helpful and detrimental signs. Hence we have one that has been considered in the physical as one physically weak, yet strong mentally. We have one whose greater influence has been in that of secretary-ship and in ability to carry out those having to do with the mental processes of developing, whether in the spiritual or physical plane as exhibited in earth's plane.
5. As to the sign, we find one under the contradictory sign of both fire and water, and one then who, without the manifestation of will's force in the body in younger days, prone to be in many disputes, yet ever with the mental forces able to succeed in most instances.
6. One whose greater vocation lies in that area of mental processes dealing with those things of a diplomatic nature, but one that of necessity must govern that temperamental condition arising in their sphere.
7. One whose influence among others has counted for more than the individual has ever given itself credit for.
8. One whose love of the home has often been mis-interpreted and mis-understood from the conditions existing in Venus and Saturn in detrimental conditions, and especially these arising at times when these, Saturn and Venus, were in the constellation as is shown in the birth sign, Pisces and Aries and Aquarius both, and all giving its effect according to will's influence in the entity's actions in this present plane.
9. One who will in the next two years reach the height of its earthly ambitions, and will then begin with the conditions as will surround same from then on be rather the declining effect of this earthly influence, save by exertions of will's influence towards things that have to do with the mystic or occult forces, and in this, with will's influence, Jupiter's forces will be manifestations in the earthly force as applied in and through this entity.
10. As for the appearances, we find these have been in many spheres.
11. Before this, we find in the days of the Crusade, and this entity then lead in that Crusade, or that known as the Holy War in Palestine, and lost its existence then in that land, and was the second in command at that time. In the present we find this personality exhibited in the love of the study of conditions relative to these Crusades made.
12. Before this, we find in the land when the rebuildings for the walls were begun, and when Sanballat resisted those under the guidance of the ruler this entity then kept the South wall and builded above the gates, and in this present sphere we find the personality as is shown in stature and in the effect of such Crusades intermingled with the second in its individual life. Hard to understand, yet giving much to many, and [missing text]
13. Before this, we find in the land of Poseida [Atlantis], when Alta was in the height of its civilization. This entity then was in the service of the country in its relation to other countries, and in the present sphere we find the desire for similar relations ever in the inmost soul of this present entity.
14. Before this, we find when the earth's forces were called into existence, and the Sons of God came together, and the sounding of the coming of the Man was given. This entity was there. |
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The NOON Chart........for the soul to enter the 10:58AM birth...... Sidereal, because from Cayce's "vantage point", or the Akashic Record of the heavens at the "time", it is as the ancient, or Persian skies..........accdg.to the readings. |
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| TROPICAL, or western chart......(not used by Edgar Cayce), or seen by him, in the Akashic record......... |
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for my own edification: (to read) 2. As to the time, we find this was at 10:58 A. M. and the completion of the entity, soul, spirit and the physical completed near noon.3. As to the planetary conditions and those affecting this life, irrespective of will's influence in same, are as these:
4. We find the sojourn from that of Mercury, with the influence of Mars and of Jupiter, and Venus and Saturn being those in both helpful and detrimental signs. Hence we have one that has been considered in the physical as one physically weak, yet strong mentally. We have one whose greater influence has been in that of secretary-ship and in ability to carry out those having to do with the mental processes of developing, whether in the spiritual or physical plane as exhibited in earth's plane.
5. As to the sign, we find one under the contradictory sign of both fire and water, and one then who, without the manifestation of will's force in the body in younger days, prone to be in many disputes, yet ever with the mental forces able to succeed in most instances. 6. One whose greater vocation lies in that area of mental processes dealing with those things of a diplomatic nature, but one that of necessity must govern that temperamental condition arising in their sphere.
Okay, so Cayce is saying that this soul came into this life on this appointed date in time, at Noon, from the "realm" of the planet known as Mercury.(not from Mercury, but the realm of same)........ The next thing I'll do is try & find an update to post concerning the man's occupation, as I think he went into the State Dept.during WW2 or held some diplomatic position in the United States Government.......and Mercury realm then, would do him very very well...... Can we see Mercury Realm in his lord or Loka (concerning the Ascendent) in the Sidereal chart??
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Reference: Okay, so Cayce is saying that this soul came into this life on this appointed date in time, at Noon, from the "realm" of the planet known as Mercury.(not from Mercury, but the realm of same)........ The next thing I'll do is try & find an update to post concerning the man's occupation, as I think he went into the State Dept.during WW2 or held some diplomatic position in the United States Government.......and Mercury realm then, would do him very very well...... Can we see Mercury Realm in his lord or Loka (concerning the Ascendent) in the Sidereal chart??
When we look at the 1st Sidereal Chart, we see Taurus in the 23rd degree ASC......or the latter decan of Taurus..... But when we look at the NOON chart, we can see that Gemini, 7deg. (or the 1st decan), making Mercury, the loka?? Come on I need help here folks.................... just stumbling around trying to figure this out. But my lack of knowledge concerning any Vedic/Brahmin or interpretation of same, leaves me high & dry & groping .  |
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Dear Deb, Note that this baby had Pluto conjunct Algol in Taurus in his tropical chart. And Mars conjunct Jupiter at 0 Capricorn, a very critical degree. How did this person's life turn out? Lilli |
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good question Lili. I'll try & check his readings and get back to you .... This thread I'm going to try & elaborate on as well........ putting other Cayce readings where I can erect the Charts to study....and I hope I can find some that we can track their lives & how they actually unfolded in time. Not all had more then one reading though (as you are aware) BTW, I started an Algol thread, just for you & me., to get started on this subject again. Hope you post there as well. Deb. |
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For the NEW ALGOL thread, just check under the Astrology Message Board...... This child above, had only one reading, hence, 234-1 |
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The Mars/Jupiter conjunction in Sagittarius seems to make sense in light of t he fact that Cayce said this man had been a knight fighting in the Crusades. The conjunction is exact. The Neptune in Aries seems to fit, too, as the idea of war comes from Aries, war for ideals (Neptune). Lilli |
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