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I thought since I was studying the possible meaning of the Power in our charts, as I'm sure like everything else in life, it is a highly "subjective" term, I would compare and contrast others, more known, in history, as to how their outcomes affected the world on the mass scale, and see what or how this site rates the power of the planets operating in their natal charts: 1: Jupiter (Lib) Con (Lib) Chiron - sep 2:16' - power: 91.25 % or War (Jup), connected big time to Chiron(inner wounds from childhood and before)
They will affect each other prominently.
2: Jupiter (Lib) Con (Lib) Juno - app 1:04' - power: 51.25%
They will affect each other prominently.
3: Chiron (Lib) Con (Lib) Juno - sep 1:12' - power: 50.62%
affect each other prominently.
4: Mercury (Leo) Con (Leo) Pluto - app 0:42' - power: 47.08%
will affect each other prominently.
5: Pluto (Leo) Opp [Aqu] Ceres - app 0:18' - power: 44.53%
Energy representing destiny, and capacity to transform the self and the outer world opposes and creates tension with energies of tendency to direct energy
to instinctive, creative, reproductive goals. Balance is needed.
6: Uranus (Gem) Con [Gem] Node - app 1:26' - power: 42.50%
Energy representing individuality, desires for change, and tendency to go against social norms is connected and fused together with energies of karmic
goals, and best direction of evolutionary growth. They will affect each other
My thoughts on this Power: Using then, just the very public figure, the current President of the U.S.A., who IMO, has done more harm both to his own country, as well as the world, (the greater Middle East in particular)...........then any other man in recent history, again, all in my own personal opinion! We see operating (accdg.to this computer generated program), the above "power", of the planets most operational in his lifetime as follows: Jupiter (Conjoined) with Chiron: Keeping with "subjectivity" here, I feel the computer program, is very biased, and gives us pretty much ALL, very "positive readings", and therefore, isn't much help for us when we study charts, BUT, it CAN be very helpful in trying to learn the deeper parts of Astrology, (the Power of the Planets)....... With Jupiter Conjoined to Chiron, (and his public life), we know for instance, he was the only one in his early family who was thought of to NEVER amount to much, to ALWAYS fail, (in many biographies)....written about his parents, and their comments concerning their boy George. When asked for instance, which son would aspire to be President, after the father, Barbara Bush (his mother said,) "Why Jeb of course, ".,as he takes after his dad." When asked about George Jr., she said, "He is a clown and always has been, taking more after me"........... Now I think for this reason along with many other biographical sketches of his early life, Chiron (the Inner wounding), fits VERY well with Jupiter, ) as we know how he exerted this "power" of theses two in conjunction. With FREE WILL, he used his expansionist policies & expanded hatred and war far beyond the 9-11 (looking for Bin Laden deal), into an "excuse" for starting a war far, far from New York City, with abosolutely nothing to do with Bin Laden. hence, "Chiron, from childhood wounding, then, choosing to benefit, by expansionism, (Jupiter, miliarily) his pain, (Chiron) and make it other's pain as well".......... We could go a step farther and say, Jupiter in the ancient Astrologers time, (both Ptolemy and before Ptolemy,) associated Jupiter with reincarnated Militarism and deciders of WAR.,as it's ruled by Sag.,and seen as a War sign (Military) which you can verify on winshop (Anne Wright's) site for the Fixed Stars. So IF we ignore the clap trap of computer generated, NIce talk", to make us all feel good, with the sing song repetitions of the same sentences, and really look at the POWER, and it's symbolism, for either "good or woe", with known profiles, we may learn something here, about our own place in the universe as well as theirs. We also, (in descending order) see Chiron again, this time conjoined with both Pluto opposite to Ceres (an asteroid, which I think has been upgraded to a drawf planet, (see Ast.thread for this)........ prominently. ...........and the last I chose in "descending order" for his profile:, the most dangerous of all of them:
7: Jupiter (Lib) Tri (Gem) Uranus - app 1:00' - power: 39.39 %
We see an "applying aspect" upon his birth, of only a one degree orb, with POWER of about 40% being vibrationally picked up by George, or him resonating to it, with Jupiter (Militarism), trining, URANUS, (the most dangerous of all), for upset in the world today....... Hence, Cayce talked often about "Uranian power" to destroy, as they have in prior lives....... again, I think the clap-trap computer generated jargon, of repeating the same phrases for "feel good", need to be mostly discarded here, as he certainly, is NOT wise, however, all the other descriptions seem to fit well, when we acknowledge the vibrations have no "good or bad" they simply are, and then, we choose to apply them in whichever way, and we can see EASILY how., G.W. Bush has applied them : Energy representing enthusiastic, faithful, wise,(LOL) expansive, spontaneous nature is in harmony with energies of individuality, desires for change, and tendency to go against social norms. p.s. I like the one about, "individuality of the Uranian energy or power" as he already is on Record saying, that he cares if not one person, or one country, is with him, or believes in his vision of war(s), he will go it alone, (with his dog Barney)......
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Here is the link to study the Power in your chart, with a computer generated program, although I'm sure most of the other free programs, likewise, gives us these options as I've seen it before on others. I chose, "All Text, all graphs" to find it. |
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Astrolog 5.40 chart for DickCheneyVP
Thu Jan 30, 1941 7:30pm (ST -6:00 GMT) Lincoln 96:41W 40:49N
Body Locat. Ret. Lati. Rul. House Rul. Veloc. Placidus Houses.
Sun : 10Aqu48 - 0:00' (F) [ 6th house] [-] +1.015 - House cusp 1: 2Vir54
Moon: 22Pis39 + 0:55' (-) [ 7th house] [-] ______ - House cusp 2: 26Vir15
Merc: 24Aqu15 - 1:20' (e) [ 6th house] [R] +1.692 - House cusp 3: 24Lib44
Venu: 21Cap27 - 0:14' (-) [ 5th house] [-] +1.250 - House cusp 4: 27Sco58
Mars: 17Sag45 + 0:03' (-) [ 4th house] [d] +0.681 - House cusp 5: 2Cap46
Jupi: 7Tau17 - 1:02' (-) [ 9th house] [R] +0.100 - House cusp 6: 4Aqu55
Satu: 8Tau20 - 2:19' (-) [ 9th house] [-] +0.040 - House cusp 7: 2Pis54
Uran: 22Tau09 - 0:15' (d) [ 9th house] [-] +0.001 - House cusp 8: 26Pis15
Nept: 27Vir25 R + 1:17' (F) [ 2nd house] [-] -0.017 - House cusp 9: 24Ari44
Plut: 3Leo02 R + 4:18' (-) [11th house] [-] -0.022 - House cusp 10: 27Tau58
Chir: 27Can50 R - 7:38' (e) [11th house] [-] -0.071 - House cusp 11: 2Can46
VP Dick Cheney, thought to be the "brains" behind the Iraq Invasion.,has the "Lying degree of his Sun sign," or 11AQU a critical degree. His Pluto is also in Leo, and the M/C is Conjunct ALGOL, or "Piled up Corpses" as the Arabic translates We'll check his "Power" planets next post |
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Now THIS is telling! Many war signs, like Taurus, Sag, Leo all with very important planets for War and agression: 1: Jupiter (Tau) Con (Tau) Saturn - app 1:02' - power:119.95
2: Pluto [Leo] Con [Can] Chiron - sep 5:12' - power:106.25
3: Mars (Sag) Con (Sag) Ceres - app 1:04' - power: 34.17
4: Uranus (Tau) Qui [Leo] Pluto - sep 1:07' - power: 26.74 (see below for descrip) Essentially what this is saying then, is the PLANETS most likely exhibiting, force and energy in this War monger's chart, by descending order is: (not unlike G.W. Bush then) the MILITARY sign of Jupiter (expansion), Conjoined with Saturn, (lord of karma) at approx 120 % Power next we see: Pluto (Destructive force if used for woe) Conjoined with Chiron (his wife Lynn said on L.King interview once, that as high school sweethearts, (she actually was engaged to someone else), when he pursued her, and she said to him, "Unless you make a million dollars of more, and make a name for yourself, I'll not marry you" ***or words to that effect! Seeing then their shared "materialistic" value system, it seems that Pluto (Destroys) combined with Chiron, (like G.W. Bush, the inner wounding from someone, possibly Lynn Cheney, and others about his manhood and Self-Worth) combining forces, to deliver or transform his energies......into a self-destructive act which also is destroying the Middle East right now. Next is Mars conjoined with Ceres (I think Bush has Ceres too, in a meaningful conjunction?) Then in order, comes a "Biggie"., and the REASON WHY, is manyfold: Note that Cheney's M/C is at TAU (Taurus may become in it's lower vibrations, very very mean, very viscious (Hitler like), ......but more importantly, in the latter degrees , now his M/C conjuncts, Fixed Star ALGOL, which is very bad for the public. Now we see more Taurus, but in URANUS (as a power play) of energy, the very unstable force of Uranian energy, erratic, unstable and intelligent.......but used for "woe"....combined with deadly force of PLUTO....It's called together, an "Atom Bomb" I believe I've seen other charts of either the Unibomber or the WTC (#1) bomber, Ramzi Yousef, and others with this very deadly combination of Uranus & Pluto, or "The Atom Bomb"
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Here is Cheney's Link for the power planets: |
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Jesus Christ........ I erected a chart based upon Edgar Cayce's readings, and official chart used by the A.R.E. (Cayce's Association), for Jesus, and tried to import this information into this program, but it isn't perfectly aligned, but very close to the actual chart for Jesus, being in 4BC (or - 3Julian)calender; as well as all the planets, in the correct houses, but MY chart has Moon in Capricorn, and this imported information has Moon in Sag. (and in the 12th house), because I used, 12:10AM versus Midnight.,as with the other chart. Cayce said, "he was born just after midnight" on this night. The computer generated Interpretations however, took me back, as they sound very much like I might have expected, and nothing like the ones I've done thus far, for myself, Dee, G.W.Bush, Cheney, or my children This one is quite unique and therefor, IMO, very worthy of study: Sun in Pisces and 4th House: Jesus's spirit, ego, image of self, and sense of aliveness is imaginative, other worldly, impressionable, and seeks transcendence of self. Moon in Sagittarius and 12th House: Jesus's emotional nature, moods, feelings, and caring tendencies is very jovial, open minded, loves freedom, and seeks meaning and new experience. Mercury in Aries and 4th House: Jesus's thoughts, intellect, and communicative activity is very forceful, energetic, direct, courageous, and seeks adventure and challenge. Venus in Pisces and 4th House: Jesus's creativity, tendencies for affection and calmness, and relationship needs is imaginative, other worldly, impressionable, and seeks transcendence of self. Retrograde Neptune in Cancer and 8th House: Jesus's intuitive, spiritual,
compassionate, psychic nature is introspective, emotional, protective, (you get the idea!..........)the rest can be read online Sun Opposite Pluto: Jesus's spirit, ego, image of self, and sense of aliveness somewhat opposes and creates tension with their destiny, and capacity to
transform the self and the outer world. Jupiter Sextile Uranus: Jesus's enthusiastic, faithful, wise, expansive,
spontaneous nature has much opportunity for growth, exchange, and harmony in
relation with their individuality, desires for change, and tendency to go
against social norms.
Jupiter Quintile Neptune: Jesus's enthusiastic, faithful, wise, expansive,
spontaneous nature often creatively relates externally with their intuitive,
spiritual, compassionate, psychic nature.
Jupiter Trine Chiron: Jesus's enthusiastic, faithful, wise, expansive,
spontaneous nature is in harmony with their ability to help, heal, and teach
others, and where one has much experience.
Jupiter Sextile Node: Jesus's enthusiastic, faithful, wise, expansive,
spontaneous nature has much opportunity for growth, exchange, and harmony in
relation with their karmic goals, and best direction of evolutionary growth.
Jupiter Trine S.Node: Jesus's enthusiastic, faithful, wise, expansive,
spontaneous nature is always in harmony with their karmic past,
Saturn Trine Vesta: Jesus's part of mind that is disciplined, respectful, and solitary is always in harmony with their capacity to direct creative energy into personal or devotional goals.
Saturn Conjunct Fortune: Jesus's part of mind that is disciplined, respectful, and solitary is always connected and fused together with their place where
opportunity and success can be found. Both parts are prominent in the psyche.
Saturn Trine Vertex: Jesus's part of mind that is disciplined, respectful, and solitary is in harmony with their karmic fate and method of reception of
energies.
His chart's major aspects then are: **Quite Remarkable indeed........if this chart is correct, it really seems to be........as there is no cradle, no T Square, no problematic aspects as such, only Stelliums, and with very important planets & angles connected to them..... Stellium with Sun: 25Pis57 and Ven: 21Pis46 and Nad: 1Ari58
Grand Trine with Moo: 4Sag30 and Sat: 8Ari02 and Ver: 4Leo09
Grand Trine with Moo: 4Sag30 and Ver: 4Leo09 and Nad: 1Ari58
Stellium with Mer: 9Ari43 and Sat: 8Ari02 and For: 9Ari01
Stellium with Mer: 9Ari43 and Sat: 8Ari02 and Nad: 1Ari58
Stellium with Mer: 9Ari43 and For: 9Ari01 and Nad: 1Ari58
Stellium with Sat: 8Ari02 and For: 9Ari01 and Nad: 1Ari58
Stellium with Plu: 1Lib53 and Jun: 1Lib45 and Mid: 1Lib58
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CONT'D.............JESUS OF NAZARETH close to the correct time, as per Edgar Cayce's readings: Checking his most powerful planet's as to their intensity of vibration, I'd think that his were far different from what is affecting G.W.Bush & Cheney, (their association with Pluto with Mars, or Pluto and Saturn with Chiron, etc. and esp. in the SIGNS of War mongering...(Tau/Leo/Sag/) with militaristic overtones, to a great power. Here we see other types of energies at work: (See all the Pisces), and I particularly Loved the Uranus with the Node (karmic Ideal in that lifetime). BOTH IN PISCES, and a very high powerful intensity.....of less then one degree orb, and approx. 76% power! His Mercury (Aries) may be explained perhaps, in his self-assuredness, and even in overturning the powers that be including the tables in those days......the Sanhedrin Priesthood. (Mercury (ARI) conjunct Saturn (ARI), not timid in the least for right and righteousness sake.
1: Pluto [Lib] Con [Lib] Juno - sep 0:08' - power: 92.71
Energy representing destiny, and capacity to transform the self and the outer world
2: Uranus (Pis) Con [Pis] Node - sep 0:59' - power: 76.25
Energy representing individuality, desires for change, and tendency to go
against social norms is connected and fused together with energies of karmic goals, and best direction of evolutionary growth. They will affect each other prominently.
3: Mercury (Ari) Con (Ari) Saturn - sep 1:41' - power: 30.09
Energy representing thoughts, intellect, and communicative activity is
connected and fused together with energies of part of mind that is disciplined, respectful, and solitary. They will affect each other prominently.
4: Mars (Ari) Squ [Can] Neptune - app 0:17' - power: 25.47
Energy representing will, energy, activity, and aggressive, assertive
tendencies is in conflict with energies of intuitive, spiritual,
compassionate, psychic nature. Adaptation is required by both sides.
5: Sun (Pis) Tri [Can] Neptune - app 0:16' - power: 18.38
Energy representing spirit, ego, image of self, and sense of aliveness is in harmony with energies of intuitive, spiritual,compassionate, psychic nature.
6: Saturn (Ari) Tri [Leo] Vesta - app 1:30' - power: 14.36
Energy representing part of mind that is disciplined, respectful, and solitary is in harmony with energies of capacity to direct creative energy into
personal or devotional goals.
7: Jupiter (Tau) Sex (Pis) Uranus - app 0:47' - power: 13.69
Energy representing enthusiastic, faithful, wise, expansive, spontaneous
nature has opportunity for growth, exchange, and harmony in relation with energies of individuality, desires for change, and tendency to go against social norms.
8: Venus (Pis) Con (Pis) Uranus - sep 8:32' - power: 13.00
Energy representing creativity, tendencies for affection and calmness, and relationship needs is connected and fused together with energies of individuality, desires for change, and tendency to go against social norms.
They will affect each other prominently. |
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And IF the Moon was indeed in Sagittarius, for Jesus, that March evening, just after Midnight, prior to entering Capricorn......but IF it was in Sag, and in the 12th house:(certainly sounds like him) Moon (Sag) SSx (Cap) Chiron
Energy representing emotional nature, moods, feelings, and caring tendencies
gets new perspectives in relation with energies of ability to help, heal, and teach others, and where one has much experience.
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