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OFF TOPIC : Cazimi - Sun Combus or Cazami
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From: mscayce2  (Original Message)Sent: 1/9/2007 3:43 AM
condition known as Cazimi/Casimi/Zaminium, "an Arabian astronomical term applied to the center of the Solar disc. It is employed to describe a planet located within an arc of seventeen minutes (17') of the Sun's longitude, *or by some authorities within half a degree of the Sun's center.*
 
 
It is then said to be "in the heart of the Sun."
 
Older authorities considered that this position fortified the planet as much as combustion debilitates it. In his dictionary, James Wilson scoffed at this "silly distinction," saying that a planet so placed "is undoubtedly in the worst state of combustion." Most modern authorities are inclined to agree with him, although the favorable and unfavorable qualities it imparts vary according to the planet involved. v. Combust." http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/cazimi.php

British astrologer Deborah Houlding calls Cazimi "a state of solar-empowered brilliance, where the two planets are fused to act as one."

Lilly mentions Cazimi, and it is very much used in Western Horary astrology, but usually only within 17', when it fortifies the planet involved and thus creates an auspicious and powerful influence for the question, quite the opposite of combustion.


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From: mscayce2Sent: 1/9/2007 3:56 AM
There are many common connections between the Persian, Arabic, Greek and Indian systems of astrology. According to Nick Campion, “A number of Indian texts were considered to be very important in the Arab world, and the first major astronomical text to be translated into Arabic was Indian. This was the Siddhanda, known to Arabs as the Sindhind, which was brought to Baghdad between 770 and 773 A.D. [during the height of their renaissance]: http://www.nickcampion.com/nc/history/indian.htm

Consider the Greek lots of Western astrology, also known as the Arabic parts, and likewise known as Sahams in the Tajika system of India. As far as I know, these parts are one and the same, but with different names. As another example, the Arabic astrologers enumerated 28 mansions of the Moon, known as manzil al-qamar, similar to India’s 27 Nakshatras (27 + 1 ancient one called Abhijit=28 originally).

The Persians made significant contributions to astronomy and mathematics. Their idea about Cazimi is based on certain precise mathematical calculations in which they observed the Sun's diameter to be 34 minutes of longitudinal arc.
 
They defined a planet as Cazimi (in the heart of the Sun) when the center of the planet was no more than 17 minutes (the Sun's radius or half its diameter) away from the center of the Sun. This calculation makes me wonder if the variant 30 min. of arc ascribed to Cazimi would not apply after all,
 
inotherwords, ..........not the 30 minutes but rather only a half a degree or 17minutes away from the Sun is Cazimi.
everything else is combustion?,hence negative.,where Cazimi, is seen as a "boost" a helpmate.
 
Oprah W. has Cazimi, in the stellium she has........Venus & Merc. I believe, with the Sun.