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| | | From: Proud Libran (Original Message) | Sent: 2/27/2008 1:11 PM |
Hey,
Lately I've been under impression of Seth's ideas. According to his "theory" it is no surprize I got his work into my hands (thanks again for that Deb :) ), since I create my own reality. :)
I really appreciate the explanations he gives of certain phenomena, but what I value even more is when I can put these to use. I somehow feel more at peace with myself (not to mention more powerful), since I've read some excerpts of his books.
To set things straight, I don't worship him or something like that. I only focus on his ideas and their consequences in real life. They resonate with my thinking and feeling, so I accept them. Not to forget is that much of what he said is somehow connected with the thoughts of other great personalities, he just wrapped it up differently.
Here is an idea of his:
Whatever thoughts, beliefs, opinions, theories or dogma you write, engrave or impress on your subconscious mind - you will experience them as the objective manifestation of circumstances, conditions and events; what you write on the inside, you experience on the outside.
As I will find more material on the internet, I'll continue posting more of interesting thoughts.
Best
Proud Libran |
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yes please do Dani!  I do agree with Seth, that we Create our Own reality.......but more often then not, it's done in such subtle ways that it (the reality ) escapes that fact completely. Look at Victims, and how we see only an agressor and a Victim. We can't possibly begin to question in ourselves , why we were victimized? But yet, if we did a thorough soul-searching, I think we'd be surprised at what we'd find. The tools however for such a thorough soul-searching aren't easy to come by, and some of this reality, is created, in other dimensions (I think?).........by our other alternate selves, we are still intimately connected to, as in past lives. |
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I'll try to find Jane Robert's Natal Chart which I had posted awhile back......and post it here for you.,as you are interested in both Seth and Jane. |
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The reason I chose to have Jane's Chart with the transits for her death, is because, otherwise, (If I had used Progressions with transits,) I wouldn't get "Atropos", which is one of the "Fates" of Moira, the Greek so called, "Fates" which I like to use now on all my death charts. It always shows up on the transits,but If I put the prog.in, it wouldn't show up for some reason? Anyway, over Jane's 8th house is where we see Atropos, which is said, to "Cut the Ties that Bind us".....to the earth plane. She suffered a terrible long year or more in the hospital for at least most of one year, and died there in the hospital (see the Transits over her 12th house of INsitutions.,which would qualify easily for the death) She had a very debilitating type of rare athritic condition that pretty much turned into stone her entire corporal body, from what I understood, (see the library book, by her good friend Sue Watkins called "Speaking of Jane Roberts"...... So Jane in the end, for whatever personal reasons had a very critical death that none of us would want to have to endure. Over her 12th house, you'll note on the day of her death, that Moira (the other death asteroid), hovers, with Mars & Uranus. An extreme type of torturous ending for her, but I do see that the transits again, do not give us what the Natal doesn't promise, in that she DID have Saturn lord of Karma in the 12th house, conj. her BML. Her Saturn was Anaretic, therefore, critical at the 29th degree in SAG. Her wonderful and creative mind, (whatever Seth was to her), came out of this creativity, which can be seen by her Mercury conjunct, "Aldebaren", or 9GEM...... Jupiter conj. Algol, was not at all helpful IMO< for her physical being, as she did "overdo", smoking, drinking and other vices for which she may have paid a price for physically in the end?? I see her Neptune was conjunct "Regulus", again, so very appropriate for when we realize that Jane rose in fame and prominence with her Seth series of books, which are housed at Harvard I believe, as the Natal chart promises one with Regulus, that there will be a very rapid decline,as well as the quick rise of success. The decline did come rapidly and very fast in her last year of life, dying young. I see her NN is also 21TAU, so legitimately conjunct Algol as well...so this was a fated ending......so to speak. AC at 0CAP. is very critical. Her early life was quite horrid for her, having been raised by cruel nuns, away from her mentally ill mother and then by an aunt I believe or grandparent. She didn't have it easy, it was very hard on her....to rectify this past and it plagued her and followed her all her days.,turning her vehemently away from her Catholic beginning .....which probably helped (in a manner of speaking,) bring about the Seth creativity in her. Where might we see the Mediumship of this creativity? Perhaps looking first at Uranus in the 3rd house of communications is good start. |
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Hey,
Thanks for posting Jane's chart, I had looked it in internet before (was very curious :) ), and commenting on it.
As for the mediumship, yeah, I guess Uranus in the 3rd makes much sense. Just think, Uranus breaks boundaries that Saturn sets. Its the first of the outer planets. And the fact that it is in Aries, the most instinctual of all signs, probably helped to break the barrier in communication between the physical world and the invisible world of higher consciousness, as Seth describes it. He often emphasizes how instincts are important for us, our higher mind/consciousnes speaks to us through it.
She also has a well placed Mercury (Gemini), which is least aspected (strong energy). The only aspect it forms is a weak sextile with, imagine, Uranus!
Do you know that Albert Einstein also had Uranus in his third? |
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A quote of Seth:
Feelings are emotional reactions to beliefs.
I like this one, because it reminds me of what the meaning of the feelings is. They show us the path we need to walk... Feelings guide us to our beliefs and we can consciously become aware of those and change them if we don't like them.
But we have to let them be, not deny them, because otherwise feeling accumulate and the next time they may be expressed in an explosive manner.
With my Moon in Leo conjunct NN and SN in Aquarius I realize I must allow myself to feel my feelings, whatever they are, there is nothing bo ashamed of (as I once thought). And since I have learned that, I feel much better. I can actually be me!
Sorry Deb, I just have to let it out. It's been repressed for so long... |
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I agree with that statement, but it's harder for a guy I think to "feel" and "be seen by others as feeling" and not construed as something else.  But for you it's very important also, because you have Mercury conjunct Pluto (a very very formidable energy here), in the "hidden house" or the isolated 12th house of the mind. Best for these energies to be out in the open.,even though they are rather more subdued with intellect, being in Libra (air).....still the 12th makes them especially difficult to get out. My husband has Mercury in his 12th house.......but 8deg.Scorpio. |
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I feel compelled to respond to this one, even though it is superly late here.
I disagree with you, obviously, he he. First of all, when I said one should let him/herself feel the feelings, this refers to the inner experience of what seems to be an outer event. You know, guys have feelings too. :) You have days when you feel good and you have days when you feel less good. I don't know how these feelings differ from those of women, but still, they are feelings. I think I show my moods very obvisouly, because I can't smile like crazy, when I feel gloomy (for example, when you break up with someone)... You will just read it in my face. Of course, I will try not to let these feelings interfere with my actions/behaviour on the outside (and I guess this is where the difference between men and women lies).
As for being construed, if I understand your point of reference correctly, I think you wanted to say, construed as someone else. :)
But recognizing and admitting feelings is something else. It's what happens on the inside, it's not really seen by the others. You either admit it to yourself or you repress it. In the first case you have the opportunity to become aware of the reasons that led you to these feelings (your beliefs) and you can do something about it, in the last case you are just stuck in life, blaming others for your misery (not recognizing you are creating it yourself).
Anyway, this is how I see it. You must be used to Libran way of thinking by now. :)
Will be back soon. Good night,
Dani |
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Re: As for being construed, if I understand your point of reference correctly, I think you wanted to say, construed as someone else. :) I didn't say construed, I said you'd not want them (or y our inner feelings to be ) , "mis-construed".....not not taken properly. Suppose for instance, you were feeling quite down one night, over just something you couldn't put your finger on......you can't identify . Would be nice IF as a man OR a woman, then either sex can just be left to be (in otherwords).....and if others wish to say, "oh he or she is not sociable, " then so be it. I had taken no notion about someone else, or others . Perhaps the word misconceived or misunderstood as......would have been more appropriate? | Verb | 1. | misconstrue - interpret in the wrong way; "Don't misinterpret my comments as criticism"; "She misconstrued my remarks" construe, interpret, see - make sense of; assign a meaning to; "What message do you see in this letter?"; "How do you interpret his behavior?" | Librans are always so worried about "other people" I think that is something my husband & I have talked about for eons. He always says it's important (feedback), and I say it isn't. We are very different that way. |
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I thought construed referred to GUY in your sentence, not to the actions of "feeling" and "being seen by others as feelings".
And yes, you said construed, lol.
Anyway, I understand now what you wanted to say.
I was always worried what others would say to what I do, but now I'm becoming aware that it actually doesn't matter much. As Seth says, if something in the outside world spoils your inner piece, start looking for answers on the inside.
I'm in the middle of my transiting Pluto square Sun and I am just recognizing what Sun, Ego is really all about (I like this transformation). I can be myself, regardless of what others think. I still wouldn't want to harm anyone, of course, but if I feel good and proud about being me and others misconstrue ;) that for being arrogant or whatever, that is their problem.
I mention this, because since yesterday I've been playing Carly Simons' song You're So Vain. :) And I feel damn good listening to it. The singer "reproaches" all these personal traits to a man and if you look at them from distance, you see they are actually not "bad". If you are self-assured and confident and radiate that on the oustide, only people who don't allow themselves to be like that, will be bothered. And being confindent in yourself, just as you are, enables you to appreciate other people just as they are, it doesn't make you superior. Do you know what I mean? I finally understand some Leos on astro.com who talked about that. And I guess I was able to access this knowledge thanks to Seth's ideas (no matter what Sun sign you are, you are supposed to be aware of your uniqueness and express it proudly - it's what Sun represents in our chart) and also to my NN in Leo, which points to qualities I need to develop in this life. I lacked those badly! My self-confidence was zero for practically most of my life.
I agree with you, the reactions of others are not directly important for our behaviour, indirectly they show us our beliefs and we can change for the better when we realize we were nurturing a couple of harming ones. And this recognition happens based on our feelings. Others will always react according to their beliefs, but if we are clear about who we are, we're just not going to be bothered by "strong reactions" from the outside (we won't have strong emotional reactions ourselves). And I put strong reactions in quotes, because in this case we're not even going to notice them as strong.
I think I will open a new discussion to comment on Libra Sun. :) |
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