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Politics : So called 20th Hijacker - of 911
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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoon  (Original Message)Sent: 5/13/2008 5:33 PM
No evidence that can stand up in a Court of Law, so the case is dismissed against the so-called 20th Hijacker.
 
Thank God there were a few good people, willing to work on their behalf for legal briefs, etc. all these years........
 
What was the Evidence??           Nothing but a creation of lies and innuendo via "Fear Tactics" by the Bush Adminstration.,and that cannot stand up in court.
 
 
TORTURE -- CHARGES DROPPED AGAINST '20TH HIJACKER,' GUANTANAMO TORTURE VICTIM: The AP reports that the Pentagon has "dropped charges" against Mohammad al-Qahtani, "a Saudi at Guantanamo who was alleged to have been the so-called '20th hijacker' in the Sept. 11 attacks." An attorney involved in the case "said he could not comment on the reasons for the dismissal." Al-Qahtani, also known as Detainee 063, was an important detainee for the Bush administration. He was the subject of a 2002 meeting at Guantanamo that included former attorney general Alberto Gonzales, Vice President Cheney's lawyer David Addington, and former Pentagon counsel Jim Haynes. Then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld authorized the "First Special Interrogation Plan" for Qahtani, which included "forty-eight days of severe sleep deprivation and 20-hour interrogations, forced nudity, sexual humiliation, religious humiliation, physical force, prolonged stress positions and prolonged sensory overstimulation, and threats with military dogs," as the Center for Constitutional Rights observed. But renowned international lawyer Phillippe Sands noted that credible evidence gleaned from this torture was non-existent. Furthermore, the records of the interrogations were mysteriously lost, as cameras that "run 24 hours a day at the prison were set to automatically record over their contents."


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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 5/13/2008 5:35 PM
This man Rumsfeld, the good Bush friend and friend and co-worker architecht of the Cheney's Iraq invasion .......Donald Rumsfeld, the Secretary of Defense, MUST have been a Nazi death camp guard in a past lifetime, just before this one??
 
I'll need to dig out his natal.
 
 
Then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld authorized the "First Special Interrogation Plan" for Qahtani, which included "forty-eight days of severe sleep deprivation and 20-hour interrogations, forced nudity, sexual humiliation, religious humiliation, physical force, prolonged stress positions and prolonged sensory overstimulation, and threats with military dogs," as the Center for Constitutional Rights observed

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 5/13/2008 6:20 PM
Having every single planet except for the sole one (Saturn), on his "Karma reaping" side of the chart, this man Rumsfeld, the Bush devotee, may well have been a Nazi, "wanna be", prior to returning via reincarnationally as Donald Rumsfeld, in 1932.
 
Either that OR, a friend of Nero's.,who tortured Christians in those days of old.
 
His chart reveals that Saturn (the lord of karma), is outstanding here, as the Singleton on the Rising side of the natal.
 
This is a great chart for a Siderealist to study..............as tropical points do not show us the true D. Rumsfeld......
I'm SURE, (I'd bet my life), that the midpoints would reveal a crucially evil dose of Algol, (the piled-up corpses), that this karmic lifetime, (Karma Reaping), will have waiting for him, when he lays down the final gauntlet of life.
 
He will need to face every single, thought, every single corpse every tortured body that he himself was responsible for, even by the worse, (sins of Omission)
 
 
 
you wouldn't want to be in his shoes.......I can assure you.
 
Think of Ebeneezer Scrooge..........and Jacob Marley and the
Chain he forged in life.........
 
Rumsfeld; has his Sun in the critical 17th Degree of Cancer, in the 8th house of death and torture. , a malefic house.
 
The degree is conjunct a star which helps make and accrue "Wealth" in one's lifetime. He certainly did this, a Multi-Millionare stash of wealth. Much of it built upon dead bodies.,and torture (8th house connection)?
 
 
This lengthy biography shows him, as both a Cancer Sun, yet a grasping, panderer, one who   uses "other's assets, in order to promote himself, and the big karmic opportunity came when his good  buddy Dick "Algol" Cheney, (MC), arrived in the White House in 2001.
 
 
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 5/13/2008 6:35 PM
WOW!  this chart that I posted the  link for, REALLY should be studied, for it's "subtlties"...for sure.
 
This man is akin to Hitler, or Atilla the Hun, yet the natal looks upon first glance, rather non-expressive or threatening.
 
Yet, he is personally responsible, karmically for much torture and carrying out (the carrying out part or being Bush & Cheney's toddies can be seen by the Setting side of all the planets)......carried out the worse 20th Century Torture in the Western World.
 
Wierd......but one MUST study the subtleties here.,which I haven't yet done, only glanced at them.
 
Again his massive wealth, built upon dead and tortured  human beings, (who does that sound like??)
where can we see this ?  In Dick Cheney's chart, it's very clearly indicated as his MC is conj. Algol and Uranus. (exact orb )
 
But for Rumsfeld, it will be harder to find.
 
I say, the Saturn in the house of Values, (a karmic and malefic planets according to the Vedics), in a "karmic and Malefic house".....he used others, to gain politically and more important to him, the advantage.....(8th house karma.) ,where he has a Stellium incl his Sun which is Conjunct the Star for "wealth", or Canopus, conj. his natal Sun, BUT, "Castor" the malefic star, at 20Cancer 12 Min. is conjunct his Venus.
 
Did this allow him to stoop so low, as to use torture and all manner of self-aggrandizing methods to become wealthier and wealthier, by being Bush & Cheney's toddie boy?? As he did with Gerald Ford and Nixon??,and even G.W 's own father in all of their administrations of long ago??
 
Let's see what Castor, the fixed star has to say about Rummy and his Venus
 
Castor & Pollux, the twins in mythology, are said, (Pollux a fiery red star) to offer strength but also "ferocity"
Denotes a spirited nature, (yes, he certainly has one) which inclines towards rashnes and a love of sport (the Roman arena??) I bet!
(he was a wrestler in his early days)in college.
 
Considered to be beneficial IF well placed, but very Unfortunate if placed in the 8th, can bring Sickness, great upset, VIOLENCE and trouble.......
 
How about Castor it's twin??
 
 
 
Accdg.to Deborah Houlding, connection with this Constellation, of Procyon, the "Dog Star"Sirius,  and it's preceding companion here;
indicates a sharp mind, good for detail, good for the Military and Lilly says, "insinuates military preferment after many contentions"
 
The effects (likens to Mercury & Mars) in aspect.....
 
intelligence to wage warfare ? against whom??
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 5/13/2008 6:38 PM
Rummy's chart perfectly energies with G.W. Bush's own natal, who has Castor in his chart. (Cancer) constellation:
 
 
G.W. has Saturn at 26CANCER, conj. this constellation and in the 12th house of Secrets......
 
makes  a great deal of sense, how Rumsfeld, with his 8th house Venus connection to G.W. Bush, did the guy's dirty work, conceived in Secret.

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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 5/13/2008 6:42 PM
Eric Francis, "Secrets in Astrology" revealed:
 
 
 
 
a conjunction of the planet Saturn (the dimmest of the visible planets) conjunct the Moon. This was in Cancer. This occurred near the fixed stars Castor and Pollux, the famous brothers of Greek mythology which are known to be the leading actors of the constellation Gemini. <o:p></o:p>

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Notice: I said note Cancer and Gemini in the same place. This is because the tropical sign Cancer (used in the Western zodiac) is located in the sidereal or star sign Gemini (used in the Indian or Vedic zodiac). The two overlap. <o:p></o:p>


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From: MSN NicknameCaringLeomoonSent: 5/13/2008 6:45 PM
Thanks to Anne Wright,for not caving in to criticism about the Fixed Stars, and reinserting all her deleted valuable information for us:
 
                          RE; CASTOR:
 
General influences of the star: According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Mercury; to Wilson, Simmonite and Pearce, of Mars, Venus and Saturn; and, to Alvidas, of the Moon, Mars and Uranus. It gives distinction, a keen intellect, success in law and many travels, fondness for horses. Its natives are said to be mischievous and prone to violence. (The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923).
 
 

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