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| | From:  Hiel- (Original Message) | Sent: 6/18/2005 9:24 AM |
Another Brick In The Wall (Part 2)
We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
"Wrong, Do it again!"
"If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding.
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?"
"You! Yes, you behind the bikesheds, stand still laddy!"
Wonder what it all means? Wonder how he works that HTML voodoo magic?
Well, here's your big chance to learn the secrets of Professor Troiye! Come one, come all! Sign up NOW!! And learn those techniques quick and easy in the chatroom. You pick the time! I've got the place! See you there!
Professor Hi'elus Troiye |
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WOW! A FREE HTML class???! AWEsome! Count me in! I'll have to schedule a good time for me, but WOW! My own personal HTML code teacher. Who could ask for more?  I'd LOVE to learn how to do some of those nifty tricks, Hi'el! Thanks for the offer!  ~ Arienne |
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- Professor Troiye: Is it a good time for some HTML 101 learning?
- Mother Siannodell: sure, but you have to give me a short break to refill my coffee cup, and you'll be surprised, but I already know some of it brb again
- Professor Troiye: Oh, I'm sure you do. You don't play around on the computer as long as you and I have without picking up some of the tricks.
- Mother Siannodell: *nods* true enough
- Mother Siannodell: k, I'm ready to learn
- Mother Siannodell: *gets a notebook ready*
- Professor Troiye: Well, rather than me to fish for what you don't know. You tell me about some of things you've seen me do that you'd like know how.
- Mother Siannodell: hmmm...*thinking* well, I guess I would really like to know how and what you know what to put in those boxes for the F/F page, first of all
- Professor Troiye: Okay, sure.
- Mother Siannodell: what's the easiest way to use HTML to link a picture instead of a url?
- Professor Troiye: Got the FF page.
- Professor Troiye: ACK
- Professor Troiye: Go to
- Professor Troiye: Go to the how to page.
- Mother Siannodell: I already know that you use <> around like, I and B and U for italics, bold and underline
- Mother Siannodell: k
- Mother Siannodell: hang on
- Professor Troiye: Also open the example "HERE" in a new window.
- Professor Troiye: http://groups.msn.com/ElmshadeVillage/musings.msnw?action=get_message&mview=1&ID_Message=6897&all_topics=1
- Mother Siannodell: is it just my stupid dial up browser or is all of msn loading REALLY slowly today?
- Professor Troiye: Must be your side of the world. Things are doing alright out here.
- Mother Siannodell: ah ok
- Mother Siannodell: I'm at the how to page
- Professor Troiye: Did you open the hyperlinked example?
- Mother Siannodell: I did now
- Professor Troiye: Alright.
- Professor Troiye: Example is
- Professor Troiye: Kur'ai's Friends and Family entry
- Professor Troiye: In HTML coding.
- Mother Siannodell: k
- Mother Siannodell: what is ?
- Mother Siannodell: I keep seeing that
- Professor Troiye: This is good.
- Professor Troiye: A <>+BR is a manual line break.
- Professor Troiye: In a word document or in a posting window you create one by holding down the shift key and hitting the enter key
- Professor Troiye: Do you have MS Word?
- Mother Siannodell: um...I have MS Works 7.0
- Professor Troiye: Oh, open a posting window.
- Mother Siannodell: ok, gimme a sec
- Professor Troiye: This will be easier to teach that way.
- Mother Siannodell: k
- Mother Siannodell: ok I have a posting window open
- Professor Troiye: You see the check box down in the left hand corner?
- Mother Siannodell: *nods*
- Professor Troiye: Go ahead and check that.
- Mother Siannodell: k
- Mother Siannodell: it automatically put some kind of code in already
- Professor Troiye: It reveals the HTML coding and should
- Mother Siannodell: ah ok
- Professor Troiye: I don't like those, so I usually hit CTRL+A (select all) and delete them.
- Mother Siannodell: it's ok to delete them?
- Professor Troiye: Yep
- Mother Siannodell: k
- Mother Siannodell: cool
- Professor Troiye: Go ahead and recheck the box
- Mother Siannodell: k done
- Mother Siannodell: now it's rich text again
- Professor Troiye: Right now hold down the shift key and hit the enter key.
- Mother Siannodell: uh, ok, I did, but it just moved the cursor down
- Professor Troiye: Now check the HTML box.
- Mother Siannodell: ooo
- Mother Siannodell: okay
- Mother Siannodell: whoa...
- Mother Siannodell: um
- Professor Troiye: You should see
- Mother Siannodell: shift+ enter = a break?
- Professor Troiye: yep.
- Mother Siannodell: <"br"> = break too?
- Professor Troiye: Check the box again
- Professor Troiye: At the front of your name type in < BR >
- Professor Troiye: then hit the check box.
- Mother Siannodell: um...whatever you just typed after the word "in" is not showing up to me in the IM box
- Professor Troiye: <"BR"> leave out the quotation marks.
- Mother Siannodell: at the end of my name?
- Mother Siannodell: no spaces?
- Professor Troiye: Yep
- Professor Troiye: Okay, let's try this.
- Mother Siannodell: ohhh I see
- Professor Troiye: Go to the example window
- Mother Siannodell: it just puts it on the next line
- Mother Siannodell: k
- Professor Troiye: highlight and copy (CTRL+C) the bolded part for the class/level/alignment entry.
- Mother Siannodell: ok
- Professor Troiye: check the box, delete all the coding
- Mother Siannodell: k done
- Professor Troiye: then CRTL+V (paste) the data into the box. Uncheck the box.
- Mother Siannodell: whoa...it's all there but not the picture
- Mother Siannodell: there's like...a line after Lawful Good
- Mother Siannodell: and it changed the font
- Mother Siannodell: like a dividing line
- Mother Siannodell: under the text
- Professor Troiye: No picture huh?
- Mother Siannodell: let me try it again
- Mother Siannodell: ooo I got it to work!
- Professor Troiye: Cool
- Professor Troiye: You got the picture to show up?
- Mother Siannodell: yep
- Professor Troiye: Now, check and uncheck the box.
- Professor Troiye: Learn what each of the codes does.
- Mother Siannodell: what is 'TD'+<> and 'TR'+<>?
- Professor Troiye: Whenever you see a '/' that is the stopping or ending code marker.
- Mother Siannodell: I know that a / before the letter indicates an end, right
- Professor Troiye: A 'TD' is a column divider in a table
- Mother Siannodell: but it has those after and it doesn't show where it began
- Professor Troiye: A 'TR' is a row divider in a table
- Mother Siannodell: where the td+<> and tr+<> began
- Mother Siannodell: ohhh
- Professor Troiye: Yes, in FF I don't include the ending codes because they're unnecessary.
- Mother Siannodell: lol, s'ok I think I understand
- Professor Troiye: And take up unnecessary space in the data field.
- Mother Siannodell: oh
- Mother Siannodell: I guess in HTML that is an important consideration, hm?
- Mother Siannodell: how much space it takes up as a string?
- Mother Siannodell: what is <+hr color? that's not the font color
- Professor Troiye: It is because the data fields have a limited amount of information that can be put into each field.
- Mother Siannodell: OHHhh
- Professor Troiye: 'HR' creates the divider line you see above the picture.
- Professor Troiye: By including color=#.... you change the color of the line.
- Mother Siannodell: OHhhh cool, ok
- Professor Troiye: Open one of our threads with your character pictures in it.
- Mother Siannodell: k hold on
- Mother Siannodell: k done
- Professor Troiye: Okay, check the box.
- Professor Troiye: Go to the thread you just opened
- Professor Troiye: Right click on the picture
- Professor Troiye: Hit properties.
- Professor Troiye: You're going to see the address/URL for the picture
- Professor Troiye: Double click your mouse on it
- Mother Siannodell: right
- Professor Troiye: to highlight the address.
- Professor Troiye: copy it
- Professor Troiye: go back to the posting window
- Professor Troiye: Actually post the address here too
- Mother Siannodell: k hold on
- Mother Siannodell: I should delete all the stuff in the posting window about Kurai, right?
- Professor Troiye: nope
- Mother Siannodell: here's the address for the picture:
- Mother Siannodell: http://groups.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nGwAAAOEHOljhdyP5!D7M3kVPXOsdd6S0tMH0Vu3CQqke40poqa0zh2WVliX70hq7
- Professor Troiye: Did you know by holding CTRL + Z it is the equivalent of the UNDO button.
- Mother Siannodell: no, I didn't know that
- Professor Troiye: Now
- Professor Troiye: check the box
- Mother Siannodell: like the edit option UNDO?
- Professor Troiye: Yep
- Professor Troiye: look for "http
- Mother Siannodell: k check the box, and that addy is in quotes
- Professor Troiye: Highlight everything between " "
- Mother Siannodell: k hang on
- Professor Troiye: and then paste the url
- Mother Siannodell: http://groups.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nGwAAAOEHOljhdyP5!D7M3kVPXOsdd6S0tMH0Vu3CQqke40poqa0zh2WVliX70hq7
- Professor Troiye: You put Ehliana's picture url up.
- Mother Siannodell: um, yes, I did, but I didn't mean for the tongue smiley to show up
- Professor Troiye: where did it show up?
- Professor Troiye: In the posting window?
- Mother Siannodell: argh, no it didn't work in the posting window
- Professor Troiye: hit the undo
- Mother Siannodell: that's who I was TRYing to put in there
- Mother Siannodell: ok, let me try this again
- Mother Siannodell: starting with a blank posting window
- Professor Troiye: No
- Professor Troiye: don't do that
- Mother Siannodell: do I start on rt or not?
- Mother Siannodell: um...ok, hold on then
- Professor Troiye: leave the HTML coding for Kur'ai
- Mother Siannodell: k
- Mother Siannodell: ok, I now have them both back to back in the posting window
- Professor Troiye: Huh?
- Mother Siannodell: the codes for both of them
- Professor Troiye:
 - Mother Siannodell: the code for Kurai, then the url for Ehl's picture
- Professor Troiye: Um, okay.
- Professor Troiye: You see the url above
- Mother Siannodell: yes
- Professor Troiye: Copy and paste over that in the posting window
- Professor Troiye: then uncheck the box
- Professor Troiye: You should have Ehliana
- Mother Siannodell: k hold on
- Professor Troiye: 's picture come up in place of Kur'ai's
- Mother Siannodell: no, it didn't work
- Mother Siannodell: gave me a little box with a red x
- Mother Siannodell: inside the same border as kurai's was, though
- Mother Siannodell: so I'm sure it would work
- Professor Troiye: Likely what happened is
- Professor Troiye: When you paste the url make sure the " " are at each end.
- Mother Siannodell: *nods* okay
- Mother Siannodell: as long as the picture's url is in between those quotes, then it should show up, right?
- Professor Troiye: yes
- Mother Siannodell: k let me try again then
- Mother Siannodell: yay! I got it to work just by using the url addy for her picture from the thread
- Mother Siannodell: (y) cool
- Professor Troiye: Yep
- Professor Troiye: You can do that for any picture just by substituting the url in place of an existing picture.
- Professor Troiye: Also did you see the 'border=6' at the end...
- Mother Siannodell: *nods* yeah, I did
- Mother Siannodell: brb
- Professor Troiye: that's what creates border around your pictures.
- Mother Siannodell: ok, but there aren't any quotes around it
- Professor Troiye: around what?
- Mother Siannodell: around border
- Mother Siannodell: er...border=6
- Professor Troiye: you don't have to so long as its inside < >
- Mother Siannodell: ohhhh...
- Mother Siannodell: which actually starts before the IMG src= right?
- Professor Troiye: yes
- Mother Siannodell: yay
- Mother Siannodell: I think I am starting to get the hang of it
- Mother Siannodell: sorta
- Professor Troiye: As you can see I also used the DIV align=center\
- Mother Siannodell: ty for being patient with me
- Professor Troiye: to center the picture.
- Mother Siannodell: yes, what is that?
- Mother Siannodell: justification?
- Professor Troiye: yep
- Mother Siannodell: div = justification?
- Professor Troiye: no
- Professor Troiye: by putting "align=" in with < > DIV or P or TD you control justification. You can also put it inside the picture < > .
- Mother Siannodell: huh? put it inside the picture?
- Professor Troiye: yes, if you put "align=" in front of the border for example and took out the DIV align= you change justification of the picture.
- Mother Siannodell: ohhhh ok, I see
- Mother Siannodell: cool
- Mother Siannodell: ok, I need to break away from the computer for a little while, if that's ok with you?
- Professor Troiye: Sure.
- Professor Troiye: I'll post this under the HTML coding thread so they can read all the neat secrets you've learned.
- Mother Siannodell: thanks, D
- Professor Troiye: Okay, that concludes the class for the day.
- Mother Siannodell: lol
- Professor Troiye: Class dismissed
- Mother Siannodell: YAYYYY! Summer vacation!
- Professor Troiye: Remember practice your copy and paste, your picture URL copying and changing, and Justification.
- Mother Siannodell: *nods* I will, and I will test them under the HTML thread
- Professor Troiye: There will be a quiz tomorrow morning first thing for class.
- Mother Siannodell: *laughs*
- Mother Siannodell: well, if I catch ya after my classes tomorrow, I'll be sure to show what I know
- Professor Troiye: Alrighty Teacher's Pet...
- Professor Troiye: Get going
- Mother Siannodell: k, will do
- Professor Troiye: I'll talk to you later. You have a good day
- Mother Siannodell: take care and stay cool, D
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