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From: MSN NicknameBellelettres  (Original Message)Sent: 11/30/2008 11:56 AM
This is heartening to me. I love google as a research tool, and I love the physical bodies of books. One of my professions has been bookmaker. My house is so full of books that it's straining at the seams, and I know a man in Texas who moved to a bigger house because he needed a place for all his books. The thought that books might be replaced by the computer screen has always been distasteful to me. -- Belle
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November 30, 2008
Op-Ed Contributor
How to Publish Without Perishing
By JAMES GLEICK

THE gloom that has fallen over the book publishing industry is different from the mood in, say, home building. At least people know we’ll always need houses.
 
And now comes the news, as book sales plummet amid the onslaught of digital media, that authors, publishers and Google have reached a historic agreement to allow the scanning and digitizing of something very much like All the World’s Books. So here is the long dreamed-of universal library, its contents available (more or less) to every computer screen anywhere. Are you happy now? Maybe not, if your business has been the marketing, distributing or archiving of books.
 
One could imagine the book, venerable as it is, just vanishing into the ether. It melts into all the other information species searchable through Google’s most democratic of engines: the Web pages, the blogs, the organs of printed and broadcast news, the general chatter. (Thanks for everything, Gutenberg, and now goodbye.)
 
But I don’t see it that way. I think, on the contrary, we’ve reached a shining moment for this ancient technology. Publishers may or may not figure out how to make money again (it was never a good way to get rich), but their product has a chance for new life: as a physical object, and as an idea, and as a set of literary forms.
 
As a technology, the book is like a hammer. That is to say, it is perfect: a tool ideally suited to its task. Hammers can be tweaked and varied but will never go obsolete.
Even when builders pound nails by the thousand with pneumatic nail guns, every household needs a hammer. Likewise, the bicycle is alive and well. It was invented in a world without automobiles, and for speed and range it was quickly surpassed by motorcycles and all kinds of powered scooters. But there is nothing quaint about bicycles. They outsell cars.
 
Of course, plenty of other stuff is destined for obsolescence. For more than a century the phonograph record was almost the only practical means of reproducing sound �?and thus the basis of a multibillion-dollar industry. Now it’s just an oddity. Hardly anyone in the music business is sanguine about the prospects for CDs, either.
 
Now, at this point one expects to hear a certain type of sentimental plea for the old-fashioned book �?how you like the feel of the thing resting in your hand, the smell of the pages, the faint cracking of the spine when you open a new book �?and one may envision an aesthete who bakes his own bread and also professes to prefer the sound of vinyl. That’s not my argument. I do love the heft of a book in my hand, but I spend most of my waking hours looking at �?which mainly means reading from �?a computer screen. I’m just saying that the book is technology that works.
 
Phonograph records and CDs and telegraphs and film cameras were all about storing and delivering bits �?information, in its manifold variety �?and if we’ve learned anything, we’ve learned that bits are fungible. Bit-storing technologies have been arbitrary, or constrained by available materials, and thus easy to replace when the next thing comes along. Words, too, can be converted into bits, but there’s something peculiar, something particularly direct, about the path from the page to the brain.
 
It is significant that one says book lover and music lover and art lover but not record lover or CD lover or, conversely, text lover.
 
There’s reading and then there’s reading. There is the gleaning or browsing or cherry-picking of information, and then there is the deep immersion in constructed textual worlds: novels and biographies and the various forms of narrative nonfiction �?genres that could not be born until someone invented the codex, the book as we know it, pages inscribed on both sides and bound together. These are the books that possess one and the books one wants to possess.
 
For some kinds of books, the writing is on the wall. Encyclopedias are finished. All encyclopedias combined, including the redoubtable Britannica, have already been surpassed by the exercise in groupthink known as Wikipedia. Basic dictionaries no longer belong on paper; the greatest, the Oxford English Dictionary, has nimbly remade itself in cyberspace, where it has doubled in size and grown more timely and usable than ever. And those hefty objects called “telephone books�? As antiquated as typewriters. The book has had a long life as the world’s pre-eminent device for the storage and retrieval of knowledge, but that may be ending, where the physical object is concerned.
 
Which brings us to the settlement agreement, pending court approval, in the class action suit Authors Guild v. Google. The suit was filed in September 2005 when Google embarked on an audacious program of copying onto its servers every book it could get its hands on. This was a lot of books, because the Internet giant struck deals with the libraries of the University of Michigan, Harvard, Stanford and many others.
On its face this looked like a brazen assault on copyright, but Google argued that it should be protected as a new kind of “fair use�?and went on scanning during two and a half years of secret negotiations (I was involved on the authors�?side).
 
By now the company has digitized at least seven million titles. Many are old enough to be in the public domain �?no issue there �?and many are new enough to be available in bookstores, but the vast majority, four million to five million, are books that had fallen into a kind of limbo: protected by copyright but out of print. Their publishers had given up on them. They existed at libraries and used booksellers but otherwise had left the playing field.
 
As a way through the impasse, the authors persuaded Google to do more than just scan the books for purposes of searching, but go further, by bringing them back to commercial life. Under the agreement these millions of out-of-print books return from limbo. Any money made from advertising or licensing fees will go partly to Google and mostly to the rights-holders. The agreement is nonexclusive: If competitors to Google want to get into the business, they can.
 
This means a new beginning �?a vast trove of books restored to the marketplace. It also means that much of the book world is being upended before our eyes: the business of publishing, selling and distributing books; the role of libraries and bookstores; all uses of books for research, consultation, information storage; everything, in fact, but the plain act of reading a book from start to finish.
 
In bookstores, the trend for a decade or more has been toward shorter shelf life. Books have had to sell fast or move aside. Now even modest titles have been granted a gift of unlimited longevity.
 
What should an old-fashioned book publisher do with this gift? Forget about cost-cutting and the mass market. Don’t aim for instant blockbuster successes. You won’t win on quick distribution, and you won’t win on price. Cyberspace has that covered.
 
Go back to an old-fashioned idea: that a book, printed in ink on durable paper, acid-free for longevity, is a thing of beauty. Make it as well as you can. People want to cherish it.
 
James Gleick, the author, most recently, of “Isaac Newton,�?is on the board of the Authors Guild.
 


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From: Jan53Sent: 11/30/2008 12:25 PM
Ahhh Belle, I hear ya! There is nothing like walking into a library or used book store and savoring the smell! You'll know what I mean. Unfortunately, I don't read much anymore except online. I spend all day on the computer at work and by the time I get home my eyes are too tired to read. That's why I post mostly early mornings or at lunchtime. Online is good for me, because I can adjust the size, lol. Maybe it's time for a trip to the eye doctor.
 
IMO, it's a cold, cold day when you can't snuggle down, hold a book in your hand, turn the pages and get lost in a new adventure. Nothing compares to that.

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From: NoseroseSent: 11/30/2008 1:33 PM
I love bookstores and Libraries but I must admit if I want something to read and I can find it on-line I will read it there. My generation have spent their whole lives in front of screens at school and at home and it seems perfectly natural for us. Holding and reading a book on the other hand seems a little weird at times. A bit "foreign".

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From: Old CootSent: 11/30/2008 2:12 PM
Again, what I read here and elsewhere differs from what I personally experience. I love books and I love the net. When we hit the local library and when we hit B&N, people are everywhere. I doubt that the net will kill hard copy. How many years ago were we told that the office will be paperless! didn't happen

oc..

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From: Jan53Sent: 12/1/2008 12:10 AM
oc, how right you are! I've argued for years that computers actually make us use MORE paper. For instance: Accounting done in a ledger book. Simple. One book with many pages which is used for months on end, divided by account names or numbers. We ,head office or the customer can just look at the ledger to get information.  Now, we post on an electronic ledger, then print out 3 hard copies. One for the customer(or bank), one for the head office and one for the local office.  It's really what I have to do. Pfffft. Such a waste of paper.
 
A truly paperless world would keep all postings on the computer, send it electronically to the customer and head office. Have automatic backup for the information. Again, Simple.
But noooo, we don't trust the computer to "keep" our information, so we must print out hard copies.
Thus the proliferation of business storage companies, who will store all your papers for you because you've run out of room. For a nice fee, of course. Then that same company will shread the out-of-date papers for you when you ask. For another nice fee.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameJohn-MargettsSent: 12/2/2008 10:03 AM
So, how do you keep a computer in your pocket for those moments when the world slides to a stop?  Or set a computer up in the works canteen for my meal break?  Or curl up with a monitor in bed on a cold winter's weekend morning?  Or doze with a computer on a lounger on the odd days we get sunshine?  Or write important comments in the margins of a monitor (ok, I own up.  It's me that writes in all those books.  I know I shouldn't but what else can I do with my poor memory?)?

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From: MSN NicknameBellelettresSent: 12/2/2008 11:01 AM
John, the way you do that is to get a kindle. It's an electronic book. And you can annotate the books you read there.
 
I saw yesterday at the Amazon website that the demand has been so high that they're all out of kindles, but you can get on a waiting list for one.
 
I don't have one, but I've played with one that a friend has. With a kindle, you can have 200 books in your pocket at once, and all 200 weigh only a few ounces.

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From: Old CootSent: 12/2/2008 12:34 PM
Belle, I love books too but not on the broad basis as you do. My few shelves now contain mostly technical and poetry books. It was a bit hard to get rid of so many books when we had to downsize furniture and other stuff for our move from WA to SC. It hurt.

oc...

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From: MSN NicknameLodi-_Sent: 12/2/2008 10:04 PM
I enjoy reading on almost any subject, especially if the authors are truthful.  I'd really like to get myself another, interesting, book on history.  I can't wait to get started, but I'd like some of you people to refer me to a good one.  Thanks. 

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From: MSN NicknameBellelettresSent: 12/2/2008 11:13 PM
Thomas Cahill, How the Irish Saved Civilization:
 
Amazon.com Review
In this delightful and illuminating look into a crucial but little-known "hinge" of history, Thomas Cahill takes us to the "island of saints and scholars," the Ireland of St. Patrick and the Book of Kells. Here, far from the barbarian despoliation of the continent, monks and scribes laboriously, lovingly, even playfully preserved the West's written treasury. When stability returned in Europe, these Irish scholars were instrumental in spreading learning, becoming not only the conservators of civilization, but also the shapers of the medieval mind, putting their unique stamp on Western culture.
 
From Publishers Weekly
An account of the pivotal role played by Irish monks in transcribing and preserving Classical civilization during the Dark Ages.

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From: MSN NicknameneverCominHomeSent: 12/3/2008 12:14 AM
"How the Scots Invented the Modern World" Arthur Herman
 
"Eats, Shoots and Leaves"  Lynne Truss (HILARIOUS...)
 
"Holy the Firm" Annie Dillard
 
All very different books...and all good in my estimation...

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From: MSN NicknameJoethree56Sent: 12/3/2008 12:19 AM
the way you do that is to get a kindle. It's an electronic book. And you can annotate the books you read there.
This 'solution' to a 'problem' reminded me of this anecdote from my fairly recent past. This happened about five years ago.

The characters were Me. -A customer

Pete-The shop manager and service engineer in all things electronic

The lad- The teenage apprentice to Pete.

I had gone into the shop to try to purchase the catalogue of the principle mail order supplier of electronic components. Things went as follows-

Pete- Sorry, they have stopped printing that but they tell me it is available on summat called email and on one of those Cd roms. for those who have a computer.

Me- Well I have a computer but I still would like a big 500 page paper catalogue to browse.

Pete- I know what you mean. looking at a monitor is not the same.

The lad- 'Course it is.

Me and Pete-No it is not.

The lad- It is, you can do everything on the monitor that you could do with the old paper catalogue.

Pete- (by now he needs to reestablish the pecking order) No you can't. With the old paper catalogue you could browse in the toilet!

Peace reigned for a couple of minutes and the lad retired with pride wounded. We had just moved the topic on, when he returned triumphant.

"You can browse in the toilet"

We looked in expectation of enlightenment and got it.

"all you need is a laptop".


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From: MSN NicknameBellelettresSent: 12/3/2008 12:00 PM
That's funny, Joe.
 
A kindle is more like a book than it is like a laptop. You hold it like a clipboard and read it the way you read a book. It's easier for me to hold than a book. You don't have to hold the pages open, which is good for me since I have arthritis. You see one page at a time. You can change the size of the type on the page to make it more readable.
 
Learning how to get around in it is the hardest thing, but it's easy once you learn it. If I'm struck by a passage in a book, I write the page number down and hope I remember where I wrote it. In a kindle, you can bookmark that page, and when you want to see it again, you can go to your bookmarks and pick it out and tell the kindle to show you the page in less than a second. You can make notes there on the kindle and look at your notes whenever you want to.

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From: MSN NicknameDee-ShowMeStateSent: 12/3/2008 5:01 PM
I too have books, books and more books in my house, in a storage shed and in the garage,  It's been my desire to open a used book store once I find the right location and feel it will is the right time to do so.  In a small rural area as this one, it's not going to be a huge money maker but it's something I have always wanted to do.  Before this coming spring I am going to decide on a location.  

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From: MSN NicknameBellelettresSent: 12/3/2008 5:10 PM
Oh, wow, Dee! What a terrific thing to do.
 
But be careful what you put out for sale. Was his name Antoine Bayard? The bookseller who would grab a book a customer was trying to buy and say, "No, no. You can't have that one."

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From: MSN NicknameBellelettresSent: 12/3/2008 5:16 PM
Lodi, I'm reading Madeleine Albright's "Memo to the President Elect." It's wonderfully readable (Madeleine is very witty), and it has a lot of American history in it -- stories about former presidents.

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