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General : Which state is the most corrupt?
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From: MSN NicknameBellelettres  (Original Message)Sent: 12/15/2008 1:45 PM
December 14, 2008
Illinois Is Trying. It Really Is. But the Most Corrupt State Is Actually . . .
By BILL MARSH

Where is officialdom most crooked? Last week, many guessed it must be Illinois, after news that Gov. Rod Blagojevich was taped making brazen personal demands in exchange for his selection of a Senate successor to President-elect Barack Obama.
 
The state's image took a hit despite its long history of producing famously principled political figures, from the bowtied Senator Paul Simon to the great man on the penny.
 
But bloggers from competing hotbeds of wrongdoing proclaimed that theirs were the worst officials in the land, thank you. New Jerseyans seemed especially sure that their leadership came out on top in the race to the bottom.
 
Not so. And not so for Illinois, either.
 
There are several ways to gauge levels of government corruption, all of them a bit, well, corrupt. We present three methods here in the interest of keeping the arguments going.
 
Number of Guilty Officials (Graphic)
 
In a Department of Justice tally covering the last decade, Florida wins by its sheer number of guilty. The report, released last week, itemizes convictions in federal public corruption cases at local, state and federal levels in the 50 states, the District of Columbia and three United States territories.
 
Illinois ranks only seventh, with 502 convictions. At the squeaky-clean end of the scale, Nebraska barely managed an average of about one guilty official per year.
But the bigger the state, generally, the more officials it has, criminal or otherwise. So places like Florida, New York and Texas pile up big numbers. Let's adjust the data for population.
 
The Guilty, per Capita (Graphic)
 
A better measure, perhaps, showing how many convicted officials are produced for every one million constituents. Seems fair - unless you're North Dakota.
The District of Columbia wins big, for obvious reasons: its high concentration of public officials amid a relatively small population. Also, the local United States attorney's office focuses on rooting out corruption, adding to conviction rates.
 
USA Today published a similar list last week, declaring North Dakota the most corrupt state. Statewide outrage followed. (The newspaper omitted the District and the United States territories.) Mike Jacobs, the editor and publisher of the Grand Forks Herald, called it "a stunning and incomprehensible result" and could recall few cases of public misdeeds over his four decades in North Dakota journalism. (One that sprang into his mind: the head of a state office who was accused of shoplifting peanuts in a grocery store. The charges were dropped. That was in 1981.)
 
So what's going on out on the Prairie? Two large cases of embezzlement by local officials ran up the conviction numbers, plus a smattering of mostly small-bore crime. Selling a Senate seat? Not yet.
 
Meanwhile, Nebraska continues to shine as a beacon of good government.
 
A Survey of Journalists (Graphic)
 
Researchers asked state house reporters to assess their subjects and ranked responses on a scale of 1 (clean) to 7 (crooked) in a 2003 study. Nebraska? Good, not great. For North Dakota, sweet vindication: it tied with South Dakota and Colorado for least corrupt.
 


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From: MSN NicknameLodi-_Sent: 12/17/2008 3:04 PM
I know that I don't know for sure, but I'll say California is right along with Florida, Texas and New York.  If bush was planning such a big war on terror, it should (I think) go to all of the states.  Politics in every state is corrupt, there are plenty of these mafia groups that rip off everybody too and gang members are people that should be somebody, but they're too lazy to even try.  I truly think we should get rid of all of 'em.  If this government had the courage to do that, we just might find more honesty and courtesy in the U.S. maybe.  They should also erase 90% of the Congress.......they sure aren't truth tellers and hard workers.

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From: MSN NicknameJohn-MargettsSent: 12/19/2008 10:10 AM
Not quite on topic, but when you lose a senator why do you not just elect another one?

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From: MSN NicknameBellelettresSent: 12/19/2008 1:03 PM
It's the law that if a senate seat is vacated before the end of the term, the governor appoints a replacement, John, until the next election. In 2010, whoever takes Obama's seat will have to run again in the general election to keep the seat until the term ends in 2012.

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