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General : Creating life forms in your garage?
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From: Noserose  (Original Message)Sent: 12/26/2008 1:56 PM

Amateurs Give Genetic Engineering A Try

Hobbyists Use Homemade Or Use Equipment In Effort To Create New Life Forms

The Apple computer was invented in a garage. Same with the Google search engine. Now, tinkerers are working at home with the basic building blocks of life itself.

Using homemade lab equipment and the wealth of scientific knowledge available online, these hobbyists are trying to create new life forms through genetic engineering - a field long dominated by Ph.D.s toiling in university and corporate laboratories.

In her San Francisco dining room lab, for example, 31-year-old computer programmer Meredith L. Patterson is trying to develop genetically altered yogurt bacteria that will glow green to signal the presence of melamine, the chemical that turned Chinese-made baby formula and pet food deadly.

"People can really work on projects for the good of humanity while learning about something they want to learn about in the process," she said.

But critics of the movement worry that these amateurs could one day unleash an environmental or medical disaster. Defenders say the future Bill Gates of biotech could be developing a cure for cancer in the garage.

Many of these amateurs may have studied biology in college but have no advanced degrees and are not earning a living in the biotechnology field. Some proudly call themselves "biohackers" - innovators who push technological boundaries and put the spread of knowledge before profits. 

Co-founder Mackenzie Cowell, a 24-year-old who majored in biology in college, said amateurs will probably pursue serious work such as new vaccines and super-efficient biofuels, but they might also try, for example, to use squid genes to create tattoos that glow.

Cowell said such unfettered creativity could produce important discoveries. "We should try to make science more sexy and more fun and more like a game," he said.

Patterson, the computer programmer, wants to insert the gene for fluorescence into yogurt bacteria, applying techniques developed in the 1970s.

She learned about genetic engineering by reading scientific papers and getting tips from online forums. She ordered jellyfish DNA for a green fluorescent protein from a biological supply company for less than $100. And she built her own lab equipment, including a gel electrophoresis chamber, or DNA analyzer, which she constructed for less than $25, versus more than $200 for a low-end off-the-shelf model.

Jim Thomas of ETC Group, a biotechnology watchdog organization, warned that synthetic organisms in the hands of amateurs could escape and cause outbreaks of incurable diseases or unpredictable environmental damage.

"Once you move to people working in their garage or other informal location, there's no safety process in place," he said.

Some also fear that terrorists might attempt do-it-yourself genetic engineering. But Patterson said: "A terrorist doesn't need to go to the DIYbio community. They can just enroll in their local community college."
 
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{ Doctor Frankenstein I presume? Not only is it now possible to create weapons of mass destruction in a garage somewhere but now you may be able to create a new strain of the Bubonic plague to get your neighbors once and for all. If this is the "information age" than that access to information means we all may have the potential to be Robert Oppenheimer working on our own little "Manhattan Project".
 
Amateur's playing around with such dangerous things could possibly come up with something beneficial but it's more then likely [it seems to me] that they will be building their own little "Island of Doctor Moreau" with unpredictable consequences? Should such things even be allowed? Do our laws need to keep up with our science? Where will all this end? Is it a problem or could it become a problem? What do you think?}




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From: MSN Nicknameoskar576nLadySent: 12/26/2008 2:06 PM
Jim Thomas of ETC Group, a biotechnology watchdog organization, warned that synthetic organisms in the hands of amateurs could escape and cause outbreaks of incurable diseases or unpredictable environmental damage.
Really? Or are you actually trying to protect those billions of dollars being invested in reserch?

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From: MSN NicknameCharley©Sent: 12/26/2008 3:22 PM
Creating life forms in your garage? Naw, but I once created a life form in a hotel room in Cancun. he's four years old now, and the experiment went well.

I really don't think anyone will create some super bug in their basement or garage unless they set out to do so. You have to mess with something dangerous to get something more dangerous. People aren't going to go out and buy bubonic plague in a bottle.

You can buy Animal DNA, proteins, and other things that high schools can buy. Dangerous stuff would require safety cautions being in place that could contain accidents. I don't know what kind of precautions are in place, but I am sure that dangerous substances are controlled and tracked.

For someone to do something extremely dangerous, they would have to go through illegal channels to avoid red tape. Illegal activities wouldn't look good on your resume if you did discover the next miracle cure for what ails the human race.

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From: MSN NicknameCharley©Sent: 12/26/2008 3:28 PM
Oh, and I agree with Oskar. Jim Thomas fears federal funding for the individual. The government is offering federal "prizes" of millions of dollars for people who create war weapons and the like. They have also offered a large sum of money for the first private firm to put a man in space.

Is the next "prize" going to be for genetically engineered bananas that glow in the dark when you put them in your Cheerios? With funding cuts in the next year being considered for any "unfruitful" program, you have to wonder if ETC Group is a federally funded organization.

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From: MSN NicknameblueeyedpupilSent: 12/27/2008 1:30 PM
but....
 
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I dont have a garage

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From: MSN Nicknameoskar576nLadySent: 12/27/2008 1:35 PM
 
but....
 
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I dont have a garage
 
Your fridge will do. Just leave some unwrapped cheese in there for a few months. Some very colourful lifeforms will develop.

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From: MSN NicknameblueeyedpupilSent: 12/27/2008 1:39 PM
oh my, i guess i did start that experiment months ago

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