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General : The new tower of Babel and the Palestinians?
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From: Noserose  (Original Message)Sent: 1/4/2009 4:07 PM
World's tallest building to be unveiled
 
For over 100 years, where there's been an economic boom and confidence, there have been skyscrapers.

  "They're acts of optimism, they're dreams rendered in steel and concrete," says William Baker, the chief structural engineer behind what will soon be unveiled as the tallest building in the world.

  Mr Baker's company, Skidmore Owings Merrill, specialises in skyscrapers. He himself has been making sure a superscraper stays up - Burj Dubai.

 The structure is almost finished and is expected it will be unveiled in a few weeks' time. But no one is saying how tall it will be.

 "We're not allowed to say. The client hasn't announced what it is and I don't think they will," says Mr Baker. "It'll turn into urban folklore, you'll have people measuring the shadows on GoogleEarth and trying to figure it out."

  All good publicity, and that is after all a large part of what skyscrapers are about - showing off.

  The current record holder is Taipei 101, at just over 500 metres high. To qualify as tallest structure, a building must be kitted out and working as hotel, offices, flats - whatever is there.

  The Burj (which means Tower in Arabic) will not be fully functioning until later in the year, but the basic structure will be ready soon.

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7798943.stm

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 {It's tall. It's really tall! A new tower of Babel? It seems these oil rich nations are determined to spend their petro-dollars in the most flashy way possible. Meanwhile their fellow Arabs.... the Palestinians... live in squalor, in a constant state of war or uprising and where whole generations have been raised in filthy camps with little water or food. Why are these wealthy states ignoring the Palestinians? I have my own theory but would like to hear what other people think? Any ideas?}



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From: MSN NicknameJoethree56Sent: 1/5/2009 12:09 AM
For exactly the same reasons that the rich everywhere do the same thing. Stage one is to find a justification for them having an disproportionate amount of wealth. In this. a decent religion can help any secular philosophy along. After all with God on your side who possibly could be doing any wrong? This is of course, a very cheap way of justifying things, as one can indulge in anything in the name of the philosophy that reveres and justifies the status quo. After all what is the cost of a pet Bishop Pope or Mullah or a charitable hospital or three compared to the alternative of seeing the great unwashed as fellow human beings?
So not an Arab thing but a Homo Sapiens (there IS a laugh) thing

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From: MSN NicknameblueeyedpupilSent: 1/5/2009 12:11 AM
joe youre right.

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From: MSN NicknameLodi-_Sent: 1/5/2009 2:18 PM
I agree with you too Joe.  These rich people just don't seem to care for normal people or helping the people that can't help themselves.  All these rich people seem to stick together and hang on to their own money and not help anybody, but themselves.
I used to think it was only in America that the rich were so stingy, but it's happening all over the world.

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From: NoseroseSent: 1/5/2009 2:52 PM
Yes.....and at the same time other Arab and Islamic states use the Palestinians as a stick to poke at the Israels with and find it convenient to keep the Pals in abject poverty so they can say to the world " Look what the Israelis have done to the Palestinians!" Meanwhile the Pals are at war with themselves and are consistently their own worse enemy, shooting themselves in the foot at every opportunity. Hardly anyone wants anything to do with them. They are the "untouchables" of the Middle East and are beginning to become a people like the gypsies, living by their wits and on the road endlessly, without a home or a future.

Arab culture loves the stories of the great leaders coming out of the desert to save or create nations and that's what the Palestinians need. A man capable of uniting them and winning a nation for them. I see no such person on the horizon, no Anwar Sadat to go into the home of the enemy and make peace. The only certainty seems to be that much more blood will flow in the streets of the filthy refugee camps that have been home to the Pals for generations now.

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From: MSN Nicknameoskar576nLadySent: 1/5/2009 4:12 PM
I don't seem to remember any "Caucasian" nation rushing to the aid of any other "Caucasian" nation purely based on race or ethnicity. Why should it be expected of the "Arabs"?

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From: MSN NicknameJoethree56Sent: 1/5/2009 6:58 PM
Arab culture loves the stories of the great leaders coming out of the desert to save or create nations and that's what the Palestinians need. A man capable of uniting them and winning a nation for them. I see no such person on the horizon

Were such a leader to emerge he would be judged to be a Communist by the USA and a threat to your oil supplies, stability etc. etc, It would then be a toss up who would eliminate him Your CIA or their Israeli counterparts.

As an aside, do your really believe Israel wants peace?

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