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General : Franken "wins" Minnesota?
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From: Noserose  (Original Message)Sent: 1/6/2009 12:26 PM

Franken on top in recount, but lawsuit looms

Minn. board certifies results showing Democrat winning Senate race

MINNEAPOLIS - A Minnesota board on Monday certified results showing Democrat Al Franken winning the state's U.S. Senate recount over Republican Norm Coleman, whose lawyer promised a legal challenge that probably will keep the race in limbo for months.

The Canvassing Board's declaration started a seven-day clock for Coleman, the incumbent, to file a lawsuit protesting the result. His attorney Tony Trimble said the challenge will be filed within 24 hours. The challenge will keep Franken from getting the election certificate he needs to take the seat in Washington.

"We had hoped that the canvassing board would refrain from reporting out with unanimity a recount total today. That did not happen," said Trimble during a conference call with reporters Monday.

Franken, a former "Saturday Night Live" personality, ended the recount up by 225 votes, an astonishingly thin margin in a race where more than 2.9 million votes were cast.

"After 62 days of careful and painstaking hand-inspection of nearly 3 million ballots, after hours and hours of hard work by election officials and volunteers around the state, I am proud to stand before you as the next senator from Minnesota," Franken said Monday in brief remarks to reporters outside his downtown condominium.

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{ Not that it matters I guess as he certainly won't be taking his seat in Washington any day soon. Coleman and the Republican Party will fight the decision in every way they can and if the roles were reversed Franken and the Democrats would do the same thing. The reasons are that if both Franken and Burris were sworn in, the Democrats' majority in the normally 100-member Senate would swell to 59 - their biggest margin in 30 years and just one short of the needed 60 votes to stop Republican procedural roadblocks.

This battle of numbers will decide if the Republicans are an effective opposition or a banished barking dog in the basement on a leash. Will it be government by royal declaration or a government of healthy debate?

Whomever has the power....uses it. The powerful generally do not pay much attention to differing voices or views. It seems to be human nature. Perhaps it is what we need at this particular time. A strong government pushing ahead with it's agenda with determination and conviction? On the other hand isn't that similar to what we have had for the last eight years.......and look where that got us.

"Checks and balances". The founding fathers were on to something there.

It doesn't always seem to work though. If Obama and the democrats can manage to get ultimate control over the machinery of government will they rule wisely? Will they listen to the opposition? Should they? Bush/Cheney never listened to anyone with a different view. Is it payback time? Can we actually expect the powerful to rule wisely? What do you think?}



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From: MSN NicknameSinclair20Sent: 1/6/2009 12:56 PM
First Jesse Ventura, now Franken?  What is in the water in Minnesota that makes them elect unqualified people?

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From: MSN Nicknameoskar576nLadySent: 1/6/2009 2:03 PM
Must be a nationwide water problem. Can you say George Bush?

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From: MSN NicknameLodi-_Sent: 1/6/2009 2:37 PM
Yes, they should listen to the opposition.  Obama is a lot smarter than bush and at least he knows that there are 2 sides to every story.  bush and cheney act like they don't know a damn thing, they don't even care.  They only care about themselves and getting money in their pockets.
Yes it is payback time.  But I really doubt if anything will happen to bush or cheney at all.  They're both so dumb, they don't even know how to protect America.
I used to believe that no man is above the law, but I no longer believe it.  If both of those a-holes, bush and cheney, could steel oil from another country, kill people, lie to the public, break the law and be two of the biggest criminals in the world.  They should be hung by their balls (if they have any).  But it just looks like nothing will happen to them, for starting this asinine war.
I think Obama and his administration will work very well for the people and I sure hope I am not wrong on this one.
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameLodi-_Sent: 1/6/2009 2:52 PM
I'm sorry that I forgot to mention Franken.  I never thought he would win, but I sure was wrong on that.  And I'm sure glad that he did.
I think he should take a seat in Congress and deal with Coleman when he starts trouble.
I guess I don't know what I should say about Burris.  Nothing about him convinced me that he should have that seat, maybe because I live nowhere near Illinois.  But when I heard him last night on tv, he kept saying that he was a Senator.  For some reason that left a very bitter taste in my mouth about him.  I'm still lacking a lot of confidence in him.

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From: MSN NicknameDee-ShowMeStateSent: 1/6/2009 10:23 PM
Good news and I'm sure many Republicans are scratching their heads over how they lost this seat.   ROFL ROFL

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From: ghostlyvisionSent: 1/6/2009 10:57 PM
What is in the water in Minnesota that makes them elect unqualified people?
 
Well, California elects actors, I suppose their qualifications are that they can pretend to be qualified?
 
g/v

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From: MSN NicknameLodi-_Sent: 1/7/2009 3:45 PM
Well, California elects actors,
 
So do other states and especially the national election.  So, I guess, you just can't blame one state.

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From: NoseroseSent: 1/7/2009 9:44 PM
Hey! I'm from Minnesota.
 

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From: MSN Nicknameoskar576nLadySent: 1/7/2009 10:02 PM
Nobody's perfect.

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