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From: MSN Nickname-Jonsey-  (Original Message)Sent: 8/25/2008 2:46 PM
It looks like there are a few cast members or rumored cast members.  I will have to root for the local Portland, Oregon kid.
 


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 Message 68 of 82 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname-oops-·Sent: 12/5/2008 3:20 PM
I was hoping the plan would work too, not that I wanted Matt gone, I would prefer they get rid of Crystal.  My God, what a lump of nothing she is!  I find it hard to believe she was an Olympic medalist, she has no physical strenght at all!
 
Bob is awesome.  Not only is he the most vluable player and "all around player as Steve said, but he can make the best "fake" idols Ie ever seen.  Where does he find the stuff to make them so believable?  He is the only one who truly deserves to win it all.  I give him big props for scolding Sugar and the others for the way they laughed and made a fool out of Randy at TC.  Yeah, Randy was an @ss but he didnt deserve to have salt rubbed into his wounds especially when he's going to be part of the jury.  Sugar and her cohorts displayed no maturity at all. 

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From: MSN NicknameSmitty°Sent: 12/12/2008 2:16 AM
 
Jonesy and all west coast members wait before ya read below.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I think maybe soon I will replace my blonde Survivor avatar with another blonde one.  I really like the play of Sugar.  She to me is amazing at reading people who are a$$wipes and don't deserve to go further.
 
Bob at 57 means I may apply again at 55.  I went for years trying and then thought maybe I was too old but I had forgotten Rudy.  Sad that his wife passed this year.
 
I think the game player has also found the end of his game.  I loved the smirk on the I I's face at TC.  Also loved how the jury reacted to how things played out with the remaining members.  Also loved how patience and just an easy attitude got one member able to see another part of Africa.  That person derserved it but how they choose to take with them was questionable but also maybe a great move of protection.
 
Can't wait to see Steve's take on this show.  It was kinda like #1 Bama going up against Florida and things didn't go as planned.  Either way, I'm cool with it.

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 Message 71 of 82 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname-Jonsey-Sent: 12/12/2008 12:46 PM
I loved last nights show and Sugar does have a way of reading the situation.  Her comment to Matty, "let me do the thinking," was right on.  Ken saw his ship sinking and Bob integrity is still in tact because Ken was not the one to go.
Since Bob knew they were going to vote him out, it was a brilliant strategy on his part.
 
My final three would be Sugar, Matty and Bob with Bob as the winner.  He has been superior the whole game in every aspect and to win the last 5 challanges, pretty good for an old fart.
 
Yep Smitty, you could still apply.  I never could figure out even for a million why people would want to be put through that torture.  I need my pillows, shower, toothbrush..etc.

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From: MSN NicknameSteve10703Sent: 12/12/2008 2:27 PM
Wow, now that was a great episode..Sugar saved Bob's backside big time because he was all set to give the Immunity Idol to Ken until Sugar stepped in. I'm going to give it to Sugar, Bob, and Matty....Sugar I love because while she's switched a few times, she always did it because of the "bad apple" in the group and when she realized what Ken was doing, she went at it...what I also loved was how she turned around and gave Matty the Hidden Immunity Idol...and the look on Ken's face was priceless....I'll tell you what...I don't mind the lying and manipulating that happens but what I don't like is the way people like Ken play the game...that's just dirty. To sit there, almost demand the Idol from Bob (knowing that Bob is a man of principle) and then plot to vote him out...that is horrible. Thank God Bob listened to Sugar because for a second there I thought it wasn't going to happen. Regardless, by the looks of things it was crystal that had the votes anyway so, Matty getting the idol wouldn't have meant anything but I like the idea...

From the looks of things I guess they'll be going with a Final 3 at the Final TC...right now, I think it could be Bob, Matty, and Sugar....they have the numbers and I just can't see it changing...I hope neither Ken nor Susan make it to the final 3 and if Susan wins, that will be a joke...she's done absolutly ZERO this game other than to ride a wave and vote and flip a few times but, not on her own making....she's riding coat tails and has done nothing to really deserve to get any votes.

I hope Bob is the winner..but, I wouldn't mind seeing the hottie Sugar win! She's so cute!!!!!!

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From: MSN Nickname·BubuSent: 12/12/2008 3:42 PM
Sugar won't win, she pissed too many people off on the jury for that to happen. She has pissed off Randy, Corrine and now Crystal. If Ken finds his way there, which I am sure he will, he will be the fourth pissed off jury member. DOn't get me wrong, I have no problem with Sugar winning, just think it is virtually impossible at this point

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From: MSN NicknameSteve10703Sent: 12/12/2008 3:57 PM
What I hope we don't get is the old:

1. Why do you deserve to be there instead of me? type questions from the jury.

2. You lied, you cheated, you did this and that type questions even though the person asking the question and 90% of the other jury members did the same exact thing.

I hate those questions because the jury always acts like they didn't do the same exact thing.

I agree, Sugar probably doesn't have a chance but, she played the game and played it well...she played the "dumb blonde" or "naive girl" role perfectly yet, she was a genius...she read every single situation and changed things up for that bad guy....

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From: MSN NicknameJákeySent: 12/12/2008 10:01 PM
One question some jury people ask that makes me crazy is "What do you plan to do with the money?"

Excuse me --but it's none of their freakin business what they do with the money. It's a private decision.

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From: MSN Nickname·BubuSent: 12/12/2008 11:18 PM
OMG Jakey, I agree. WHo cares what they will do with the money? They starved and slept with bugs, snakes and rats (and I am not just talking about the 4 legged kind)for 39 days, the money is theirs to do with what they want. I have a feeling we are going to have a sore loser TC that will surpass the All Stars!

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From: MSN NicknameSàndy·Sent: 12/13/2008 1:21 PM
I totally agree about some of the jury questions, but I expect we'll hear some of the same ones.  There are always those that think THEY should be the ones sitting in the winners seat and can't stand the thought that someone else was able to.....outwit, outplay and outlast.... them! 
 
Bubu, I think the sore loser(s) will be Randy and Corinne. 

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From: MSN Nickname-Jonsey-Sent: 12/13/2008 1:33 PM
Those really tick me off too.  No doubt Corinne and Randy will be sore losers.  Not so much if it's Bob and Matty in there.

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From: MSN Nickname-oops-·Sent: 12/13/2008 4:29 PM
If Bob makes it to the Final 2, Randy will be pissed at him because he made and gave him a beautifully crafted "fake" immunity idol. 
 
This past TC was the best by far of all seasons.  For a minute I didn't think Sugar was going to give Matt the hidden idol and when she did telling him to get rid of the freakin thing it was priceless!  I thought Crystals eyes were gonna pop right out of their sockets lmao.  It was time for her and Kenny to get their due and see that they were the "sly leaders" in their own minds only.
 
I would be happy with Matt, Ssugar or Bob winning it all but mainly pulling for Bob.  Sugar has played the game quite well and has made good moves but Bob has outwitted 2 people with his fake idols.  Just where did he find the stuff to make them and have them look so real??

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From: MSN NicknameSteve10703Sent: 12/15/2008 2:21 PM
Bob wins!!!!! Bob Wins!!!!

I swear, I was actually worried that Sue would end up winning the entire thing....its funny how they said that all 3 in the final just road coat tails when in reality it was Sue that rode coat tails the entire season...talk about an undeserving winner and a self absorbed ego maniac. What I hated most wasn't so much the "I can't believe I won Immunity" routine but, the way she rubbed it in..."I won immunity, sorry Bob, you're gone," "Bob you're done in this game..." I think one can only take so much before snapping and Sue then's like "Oh Bob has a temper and he wouldn't even give me my time to be happy," who is Sue kidding?

I have to admit, I loved that strategy by Sugar...give Bob the vote and let him and Matty duke it out to get to the final 3....

As for Ken...I find it interesting how he was angry that Bob didn't give in the Idol yet, at the same time, couldn't admit that had Bob given him the Idol that he was going to flip and vote Bob off....and he rationalized that not giving him the Idol was like getting stabbed in the back yet, getting the idol and voting off the guy that gave it to you was "playing the game" what a joke.

I'm not surprised that Sugar didn't get any votes but, I also think she knew she wasn't going to get any so, she tanked the last TC so she doesn't take any votes from Bob...though, I stll have no idea how Sue even got 3 votes....

Another season of Survivor is done..and I wouldn't rate this one the worst season but, it definitly wasn't the best..I think the last month saved it from being the absolute worst.


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From: MSN Nickname-oops-·Sent: 12/15/2008 8:03 PM
I agree with you all the way Steve.  Sue was a total pain in the butt with her constant comments about winning the final immunity.  Bob had every right to get pissed about it.  I didnt see him bragging when he won the last  or 5 or 6 of them in a row.  Then she had the nerve to say at TC that Bob suddenly went off on her for winning it instead of congratulating her!  OMG, I wanted to smack her one!
 
Since Sue was one of the finalists and Sugar knew she was one too, I think her idea of making the vote tie and letting Matty and Bob compete for the last spot was perfect and was the fairest thing to do.  What I'm wondering is what Matty found out while at loser lounge about Sugar that had him so angry at the jury questioning.
 
Kenny is a doofus.  I cant believe he sees nothing wrong with his plan to stab Bob in the back if he would have given him the immunity necklace.  Maybe he should spend more time dealing with real people and reality instead of living in "virtual reality land" and playing video games.
 
I too was afraid Sue was going to win and that would have been a real bummer.  No way did she deserve to be in the final 3 and no way did she deserve even 1 vote cuz she did nothing, nothing, nothing to get there.
 
Way to go Bob!!!

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From: MSN NicknameSteve10703Sent: 12/15/2008 9:06 PM
What saved sue's backside was that the final immunity challege wasn't an endurance challenge...you know the usual, who can stay on a stilt with one leg the longest type thing. I can't even recall the last time they had the final challenge not be an endurance challenge....I wonder if they changed it at the last moment when they realized it was 2 weak women against two strong men? I don't know.

Its one thing to be angry, but that remark Corrine made to Sugar was just horrible. Honestly, I never hit a woman in my life, but I swear, had I been where Sugar was and she gave me a remark like that about my dead father, I'd have done a lot worse than flip her the bird....I'd probably have gotten up and thrown her into the fire..attacking a person personally is fine, but, don't involve someone's loved one. Though I did laugh at the line about if sue would have her vocal chords removed...lol.

I still hate Final TC when the jury is bitter....its fine to be angry, whatever, but, 90% of is just bitterness that they didn't succeed in doing the same thing that most of the people in the Final TC have done...so, they're angry about it.

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