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From: MSN Nicknameferdinan43  (Original Message)Sent: 11/17/2008 12:49 AM
for some reason the tv is full of survival shows. You know where a man goes out and lives for a week or so in the boonies.
 
Most of thee cases are not survival shows they are slow starvation shows.
 
The best way to survive is to adapt to live in the area that you are in. We do it all the time.
 
If you live in the city I know that you have somewhere in your mind to run is things go to hell. I have five acers with two houses and a very good garden spot with ample ground water that can be pulled up with a pitcher pump.
 
This is not a woodland survival type situation it is cultivation and simplifying life place to spend some years if things go bad.
 
So if you have your little place that you will go thinking that you will simply wait out bad times you have to have the ability to wait out bad times. I have a buddy that has all this survival shit and lives in a house in the middle of town. His big thing is to go into the forest to live when things go bad.
 
Yet he has only about a weeks worth of food stored and his idea of living in the woods is to simply use a usgs map and pick an isolated spot to put up a tent for him and his family.
 
does this sound like a good plan?
 
How about the people that are in the area and established?
 
How about the new population pressure those area's will begin to feel?
 
What about winter?
 
Fresh water?
 
A little cabin on land that you have purchased and can enjoy as a "get away" puts you in with the indigenes population and also gives you some skills that will be needed along with a familierity with the area.
 
So what if you cannot afford that?
 
Well I find it hard to beleive that you cannot find something if you are serious about having a place to run. But maybe a skat wagon is the way to go. Find an area that you like and make frequent vacation visits in the area. Rent cabins or camp grounds around the area. Hike and look around then decide where the best place to squat would be if you needed it.
 
I have built 8 x10 and 10x10 modular cabins for people who were able to load them in trailers to sit up on property for "Get away" retreats. It is very cheap and easy to do this and if things really go bad you will have a place to put up in a days time that will keep off the rain and will give you a heated spot to live.
 
One of the guys had one on a tailer and his house burned. It was very nice to have sitting in his back yard while he was trying his place bck together. He turned it into a shop building when he was finished.
 
IN fact as a matter of survival the ability to make these small buildings after a disaster can keep your family dry and warm. You can find enough in a destroyed house to build a pretty sevicable 10X10 Building.
 
Anyway knowing that you can eat bugs is great but these guys are only doing it for a week. You need to have it in your mind you might be doing it for months if things do fall apart and you have to find country to flee to........


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From: MSN NicknameGreyWolffSent: 11/21/2008 11:57 PM
Good point. If you live in the country be aware that during a catostrophic situation every city dweller with a tank full of gas will be coming out to visit you. They will range as far as their gasoline will take them.They will be looking for farmer Brown who of course will welcome them with open arms. Good ole farmer Brown will have more than his share of fresh chicken eggs and plenty of ham and bacon and fresh vegies that maw canned. Then he also has so much land that the game will be just jumping around like kangaroos. City dwellers are clueless about country living or what it takes to live in the rural areas. Most of them will not be asking for food either. They too have a lot of firearms in which to take what they need. Then let's not forget good ole uncle sam sending his boys out to the local farms to confiscate the resources to feed the masses.If you get caught hiding those resoruces good ole uncle sam will look at that as a crime. Then of course there is the medication problem. I dont see any Walgreens out in the forest. How much medication do you have stocked up? Is there a way to substitute the medicines of today with what nature can provide? Glasses, dental problems, broken false teeth, antibiotics etc.A small radio with  a hand crank power unit can go a long way in keeping high morale. Having the ability to barter with your neighbor is also a very important skill. Just  a few more things to think about.