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From: MSN Nicknamemandi251  (Original Message)Sent: 1/19/2007 10:19 AM
i need some advice i have been with my partner for 6 years on and off we recently had a baby boy who is now 4 months old my partner has recently walk out on us and i do not know what to do i have tried the police all they say is he is safe and well . i dont know what to do i'm not sleeping for worry can anyone suggest anything


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From: MSN Nickname¥veŧŧe-aka-ТaŗaSent: 1/19/2007 2:48 PM
Hi Mandi its hard to answer you as we don't know anything about you not even where you are from if you can go to a bit about us and add a bit about yourself that maybe would help .
 
You say you have been with your partner on and off for 6 years so it sounds like your relationship has had its up and downs .Did he actually want to be a dad ? You say you have been in contact with the police ! Did he go missing or something and they have found him and hes told them he doesn't want to talk to you ? I think we need a bit more information if you want us to advise you what to do .

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From: MSN Nicknamemandi251Sent: 1/19/2007 8:43 PM
sorry i was just a bit upset i am from scotland a tiny mining village in kimglassie i met him 6 years ago and 4 years we have been trying to get pregnant got pregnant 3 times but lost them before the 12th week fell pregnant last xmas and our son was born healthy 6 days after his due date he was a wonderful father he said he wanted our son but i have been suffering fron pnd and have found out today that i'm 5 weeks pregnant what a bummer he got up last saturday and fed the baby and we were going out the way he put the car seat in it tipped and our son nearly landed on the ground and he just ran away never to be seen or heard from again i called the police and reported him as a missing person and was told basically he dosent want to talk to you or see you since then i been calling all his mates but they say he not there or they havent heard from him i feel like i banging my head up against a brick wall can you give me any advice i do not have any friends as when i met him they didnt get on my health visitor thinks i'm stupid and silly and to grow up anything else you would like to know?

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From: MSN Nickname¥veŧŧe-aka-ТaŗaSent: 1/19/2007 9:08 PM
Hiya Mandi sounds to me like he got a big fright when the baby fell and maybe you said something in the heat of the moment as most of us would because you got a fright even though you didn't mean it ! I know its hard but you know he is ok and it's not been a week yet just give him some space and hopefully he will get in touch with you soon and I'm sure he will be missing the baby .
By the way are you getting treatment for your post natal depression ? and did you tell your partner that you thought you may be pregnant again ? Maybe as hes seen how much you've been suffering hes maybe worried sick how you will cope with 2 little ones .
I can't imagine why your health visitor would think your stupid and silly they are supposed to be there to help you .
Maybe if you see your doctor he / she may be able to put you in touch with someone that can help and advise you .
Sorry I can't be of anymore help its hard to advise not knowing the whole story etc .

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From: MSN Nicknamemandi251Sent: 1/19/2007 10:18 PM
thank you had to go off line to bath the baby what you say makes sense my health visitor is a ass sorry about the language it was nice to talk to someone about it if i am not being nosey where you from?

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From: MSN Nickname¥veŧŧe-aka-ТaŗaSent: 1/19/2007 11:35 PM
I'm from Corby Northants

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From: MSN Nickname»Tïģģêř«Sent: 1/20/2007 10:31 AM
Hi Mandi...well done Yvette you've said exactly everything that I would not that I profess to be an expert. lol
 
Mandi you do need to go and see your GP as PND can be treated but you will recover much sooner the quicker you make a start on treatment. If you are definitely pregnant that might complicate what medication you can take but I'm sure there is something.
PND is a terrible illness for both the sufferer and the people living with them. Your partner was probably at the end of his tether and cannot understand what is wrong with you and doesn't know how to help you. He has probably done as much as he can and self preservation that is in all of us allows us to be involved for so long and then we pull back before we get sucked in.
If you can speak to your GP and get the help you need then I'm sure if your partner was told that you are getting your illness which is no fault of yours under control he might feel reassured enough to make contact direct with you and discuss things.
You have both had a very rocky relationship during all the time you have known each other and whilst the majority of couples think a baby is the cement in a relationship it can actually be the thing that totally cracks the relationship apart. More so in a case like yours with you unfortunately suffering from PND.
Mandi how do you feel about your baby? Have you bonded well with him?
Where are your nearest relations? Hope you don't mind my asking these questions, you don't need to answer of you don't want to.
Just in case your interested (seeing as you asked Yvette) I live in Lancashire about 34 miles north of Manchester.

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From: MSN Nickname¥veŧŧe-aka-ТaŗaSent: 1/20/2007 8:02 PM
Sorry Mandi I have deleted your message and am reposting it edited .Swearing in not allowed on the message boards and is against msns code of conduct .
 
From: <NOBR>MSN Nicknamemandi251</NOBR>  in response to Message 1 Sent: 20/01/2007 19:54
hi tigger thank you for what you have said i when he left i wanted to put my
baby as far away from me as possible that sounds horrible but i was scared
id hurt him if you know what i mean. not long after he was born he was
crying and crying and he wouldnt stop so i shouted at him to shut the ****
up i didnt mean it but it was how i was feeling as my partner was wanting
into my knickers on my first nite home our son was only 24 hours old. my
parents stay about a mile away from me but i have not mates as the disowned
me after i met my partner as in the begining he was rather a violent person
but he changed i just feel like shite pardon the language i feel like i am
on auto piolt. do you have any kids?

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From: MSN Nicknamemandi251Sent: 1/20/2007 9:13 PM
sorry i didnt know i didnt mean to use bad language wont happen again

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From: MSN Nickname»Tïģģêř«Sent: 1/21/2007 11:34 AM
Hi Mandi..yes I do have children, I have 3 boys who are now 21, 19 and 17. Thankfully I have had a supportive husband whom I married 4 yrs before we had our first son and didn't have any unusual complications surrounding the pregnancies and births.
I worked for 3 years with postnatal mums and their babies on a local psychiatric ward and worked with a few dozen mums who were experiencing varying degrees of PND.
I have more recently worked in supported accommodation for 11 years, usually teenage girls and their babies but we have had older mums live there as well. Amongst these young women there has also been a fair share of ones who have fled domestic violence be it physical or mental abuse. Any man who demands from his partner against their will be it sex, time, money, etc is not a man at all and has massive insecurity issues of their own which they unfairly pile onto their partner. As Yvette said we don't really know you that well Mandi but from what you have told us so far, the more I hear the better off I feel you are without him. My goodness how depraved is this guy if he expects sex almost as soon as a woman has given birth. I'm sure many women in here will agree that when you have just undergone something as physically traumatising as giving birth you are vowing never to allow that to happen again!
Are you 100% positive you are pregnant again?
I presume you have lost all of your friends because they understandably could not stand by and see you allow yourself to be repeatedly abused by your partner. It is a terrible thing to know it is going on and friends have probably supported you as far as they could but there comes a time when they were not prepared to be there for you if you were always making excuses and waiting for him to change whilst remaining with him.
If he had changed as you say then why not try to contact who you felt was the most supportive of those friends and see if they can help you now.
Your health visitor is also a good area of support but if she too has seen you put up with the crap your partner did to you then I can understand if she too had felt she'd helped as far as she could professionally if you weren't prepared to take on board that what was going on was unacceptable.
There will hopefully be various support services in your area Mandi no matter how remote and I feel you need to access those as quickly as possible. If you cannot find anything displayed in your local surgery ask your Health Visitor or have a look on google or similar by putting in key search words ie domestic violence, post natal depression etc.
Good luck Mandi and please keep us posted. I hope I haven't offended you by being too blunt or sharing my views but I don't think it is fair to 'pussyfoot' around when direct speaking is what is needed to discuss your problems and issues.
Apologies if I take a while to reply but I only occasionally use my laptop through out the day.

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From: MSN Nicknameannann29Sent: 2/9/2007 7:24 AM
Hi mandy,
Sorry to hear of all the trama that you have been through since the birth of your little boy.  You say that you have wanted a child for a long time suffering miscarriages before your perfect little boy-maybe in your desire to have a child you did not know that a child would take up your time 24 hours a day, and how hard it can be.  You cannot do this on your own-the others have given excellent advice where to go for professional help to cope with your situation-you must get this help as quickly as you can-you will need someone to help with your son as you will need to help get yourself right before you can take on full responsibility for your boy-First get help for you-then when you are right you will be able look after your son and think straight about your partner-Your feelings about him at the moment will be confusing, and a man that is violent towards you, could not only put you in danger, but your son also-your partner needs help-but you cannot do this-so look after yourself-get you right-then you will find that Yes a child is hard work, but it is also a blessing and very rewarding.
Your son relies on you to keep him safe, warm, fed and loved-and he will love you in return and you will in his love find the peace and respect and love for yourself you deserve.

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From: MSN NicknameGriffSWSent: 2/12/2007 8:18 PM
Hi Mandi251, sorry you are so unhappy, but if I was in your place I would not bother anymore with him, it will be  hard for you if you still love him, To me he is no good if he run's away and leave you with the baby. take care luv Kathy.
PS I was married 42yrs lost my darling 8yrs ago.

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From: MSN Nickname¥veŧŧe-aka-ТaŗaSent: 2/12/2007 9:31 PM
Just to let you know Mandi is no longer a member of this group .

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