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From: MorgannnSent: 9/9/2002 1:13 PM
 
In Sunday nite'sfun , last board.  HALF THE FIELD
played 4 hearts and the other half played 2 or 3 hearts...(Well not exactly, as usual one or two N/S played 4sp I think)
 One of my "heros" stopped dead at 2h with East hand so I didn't feel too bad :-)
If playing reverse drury is West qualified to use this convention? And if you are not playing reverse drury  then what?
Bruce, Ian, Lorne ,Jo anyone  what is the "book" bid here?
 
 
Deal 20        North
West deals     S K943
Both vul       H J6
               D 842
               C AQ105
West                          East
S 62                          S Q87
H AK74                        H Q10982
D Q10953                      D AK7
C 72                          C K3
               South
               S AJ105
               H 53
               D J6
               C J9864
   West     North      East     South  
 Morgann 
 
  Pass      Pass       1H       Pass   
   2H       Pass      Pass      Pass   

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From: alanscSent: 9/9/2002 1:39 PM
West is worth a limit raise regardless of your methods. If you aren't playing drury, then I can see being hesitant about bidding to the 3 level, but with 4 trumps, the law protects you.

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From: brucebojeSent: 9/9/2002 2:09 PM
I agree with Alan.  West needs to make a limit raise or some other type of invitational bid.  East should be happy to accept.
 
 

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From: IanDSent: 9/9/2002 3:49 PM
I agree, the shape and great trumps in the West hand make it worth a limit raise.  Use Drury if playing it and bid 3H if not.

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From: jobanjoSent: 9/9/2002 4:48 PM
Morgann, this hand is a sound limit raise. And it's a good hand for Reverse Drury.
 
Most play Reverse Drury promises a fit and 10 in support. To me, the hand is 11 in support, so I used Reverse Drury.
 
I suspect you are looking only at the hcpts, and that's okay for NT contracts. But when you have a major-suit fit, counting distribution adds in something for the fact that you can ruff partner's losers.
 
To count your hand in support of partner's major, count your hcpts, and add the distribution values. I suggest using Goren's "dummy points." When you have a known 8-card or longer fit, count your hcpts, add 1 point for each small doubleton and 3 points for each singleton. Don't count distribution in partner's second suit, though, because that will duplicate values he is counting.
 
Skip this, Morgann because you hate such references: (Using the losing trick count (my back-up method), the hand has 8 losers, invitational.)

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From: jobanjoSent: 9/9/2002 4:50 PM
Btw, Morgann. If I were East and my pd raised my 1H opener to 2H, I wouldn't consider bidding on.

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