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Recommend  Message 1 of 11 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameGIPPO99  (Original Message)Sent: 11/16/2002 9:59 PM

Deal 3         North
South deals    S 64
EW vul         H Q94
               D Q105
               C KQJ93
West                          East
S A10932                      S KJ7
H 8653                        H K10
D A987                        D K64
C                             C A8654
               South
               S Q85
               H AJ72
               D J32
               C 1072
   West     North      East     South  
 GIPPO99    edcio   doubleup0 zbigniewb
                                 Pass   
   Pass      Pass      1NT       Pass   
   2C        Dbl       2D        Pass   
   2S        Pass      Pass      Pass   

 

What is the best bid here by west?




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Recommend  Message 2 of 11 in Discussion 
From: JoAnneMSent: 11/16/2002 10:49 PM
Hi Ginny, since I am one of your partners I will say what I would have done, then maybe the experts can correct us.
 
Because you used stayman first I think a 3s bid is right.  It should tell your partner that you are 5/4 in spades and hearts - cuz you didn't transfer.  It should strongly invite game in either 3nt or 4s.

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Recommend  Message 3 of 11 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameGIPPO99Sent: 11/16/2002 10:54 PM
Yes  in  hindsight I agree.   I was concerned with the void if  partner only had  2 spades  then my hand is only worth 8 points  and a void in the  opps suit  

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Recommend  Message 4 of 11 in Discussion 
From: ironduke0Sent: 11/18/2002 3:07 PM
Gippo, I see that your partner opened 1NT with 14hcp, but even if using 15-17hcp for a NT opening after pard denies, a 4 card major and with you 8 points I think that 2 spades is the most that you can bid if partner has additional they must make a move to game you are not strong enough for a 3S bid in my opinion.
Duke
 

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Recommend  Message 5 of 11 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nickname_destiny_6Sent: 11/18/2002 5:01 PM
I agree with your bidding Gippo (if not with the NT opening, this isn't a good 14).  I believe that 2S over 2D is a standard way to show an invitational hand with 5 spades and 4 hearts.
 
I am afraid that I can't agree with the suggestion to bid 3S instead of 2S.  I'm not sure what 1NT - 2C - 2D - 3S should mean, but it seems to me that it certainly should be slammish, maybe a splinter.  The reason 3S can't be invitational if it shows 5 spades is that it takes the partnership past 2NT.  This sequence might also mean 4 hearts and 6 spades?

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Recommend  Message 6 of 11 in Discussion 
From: flash7235Sent: 11/18/2002 5:27 PM
not playing puppet i would transfer,with 5 spades and as i agree with lorne[4 raggy hearts=3] and after transfer leave in 2 spades.

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Recommend  Message 7 of 11 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameIRDOZSent: 11/18/2002 9:00 PM
Destiny
 
1nt-2c-2d-3s can be
 
a) smolen showing game forcing values with 4h and 5s
b) showing 5s and 4h and game forcing or game invite values (have seen both played)
 
But it can't be a splinter...theres no suit
 
A common method is to play
 
1nt-2c-2M-3otherMajor as showing 4M and an undisclosed single.
 
 

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Recommend  Message 8 of 11 in Discussion 
From: cadetSent: 11/18/2002 9:09 PM
good input ross,but IMO,example hand doesnt qualify for a stayman bid.xxxx of hearts not a valid suit and as i stated b/4 this hand if i was bidding even with void,i would transfer.think if your bidding smolen should have good 4/4 or 4/5 in majors.interesting that opener had only 14 hcp for 1nt.think if that was my pard would errode partnership trust.

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Recommend  Message 9 of 11 in Discussion 
From: IanDSent: 12/3/2002 10:24 PM
I don't think 2S was that bad.  In standard bidding this shows about this hand, 5-4 with invitational values.  3S doesn't "strongly invite game" it 100% forces game.
 
I also don't care much for the opening bid.  But, as an additional point, the 2D bid is a clear error.  When Stayman 2C is doubled, 2 additional calls are added to your options--Pass and Redouble.  2D becomes a natural call showing long D's.  Pass says nothing to say while redouble shows very good Clubs and offers to play in 2C redoubled.

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Recommend  Message 10 of 11 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameTWOferBRIDGESent: 12/8/2002 2:10 PM
Correction to IRDOZ's typo ( I thought I am the only one who makes those):
 
1nt-2c-2d-3s(jump) can be
 
a) (game forcing) Smolen showing game forcing values with 4s and 5h

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Recommend  Message 11 of 11 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameTerrenceReeseSent: 1/11/2003 5:59 PM
Whta tpyo?

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