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I play my 4nt as just straight blackwood. Pard didn't know what it was and we had a good score and didnt want to risk a disaster. What should it be? And is there a better bid? 4D works because she bids hearts but what if she bid spds. I dont want to blast because I have visions of 7 .----------------------------------------------------.
|Dealer: S ===North======== Brd# 145983 |
|Declarer: E > foxwhiz Scoring: IMP |
|Vulnerable: NS S: KT9863 |
|Contract: 4NT H: |
|Result: Made 5 D: 632 |
|Score: -460 C: 8543 |
|===West========= ===East========= |
|> marguerite .----------. > BartonFinchley |
|S: AQJ2 | | S: 54 |
|H: J873 | | H: AKQT9642 |
|D: Q98 | | D: A |
|C: AT .----------. C: K7 |
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| ===South======== |
| > suestokes |
| S: 7 |
| H: 5 |
| D: KJT754 |
| C: QJ962 |
.----------------------------------------------------. BIDDING: West North East South
2D
Dbl 3D 4NT Pass
Pass Pass
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1) The question is, would a freebid of 3H be treated as forcing ? 2) What else could a 4NT-jump be except Blackwood in this auction ? |
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For sure 4NT blackwood, But i prefer 4D partner will bid 4SP now 4NT. |
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If I have an alternative to making a bid that may be misunderstood by my partner, I will try to make the bid my pard will understand. In this hand, I would bid 4D. It is clearly forcing and asks pard to describe their hand more. With partner's response of 4H ( I know..surpirse, surprise), now it is easy to bid 4NT and get to your great slam. |
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Those things are all dangerous 4D 4S now pard thinks spds is trump. Not much room to work here. She may "correct" my eventual 6H bid to spds. ) The question is, would a freebid of 3H be treated as forcing ? I think it would be non forcing and a jump to 4H would sound as if it was to play. |
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| | | From: JoAnneM | Sent: 12/28/2008 6:40 AM |
Another option might be to double 3D (responsive) in which case you would also get the heart bid and then you could proceed from there. |
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Simple solution: When you have "visions of 7" but see that the options may be misunderstood, settle for 6! A small slam bid and made (even with an overtrick) will almost always be a good score. A grand slam going down or the wrong slam going down will be a bad score. You choose! |
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4nt sure looks like blackwood to me.
With a pickup partner, 6 hearts I suppose... |
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When you have "visions of 7" but see that the options may be misunderstood, You don't see that the options will be misunderstood until after the fact. (that's why they end up on the message board). I think it would be reasonable to play 4D as ace asking and 4nt as quantitative as well. |
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If a new suit "freebid" at the 3-level by an unpassed partner is not forcing, then I think JoAnne's Responsive DBL is best. And let's say the T/O DBLer had to bid 3S with say: A K Q x x x x x x Q J x But there can be problems:
West North East South
2D
Dbl 3D DBL Pass
3S Pass 4NT(RKC for Sp)
5S(2 + sQ) 6H (now PK would take this as a GST
asking for 3rd Rnd Ctrl in Hts
and "correct" to 6S ).
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| I play 4NT here as straight Blackwood, but wouldn't bid that here. I'd cuebid first, and then bid a straight up 5H to show this hand. That'll get you to six. |
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I wasn't sure whether it was blackwood or quantitative and I can make an argument for quantitative in this sequence. It seemed to me that there were several forcing options without the jump to 4N which, after a long tank, steered me into the quantitative belief. |
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How can it be quantitative when your hand is rather undefined?
It's purely straight Blackwood to me, and that's what I would bid. I don't see how you can have 2 spade losers on the auction and 7H is a definite possibility, so straight Blackwood is the obvious bid East has. |
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