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General : 60 mins article on caesars v homebirths....
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Message 1 of 8 in Discussion

From:

Mum-Kel (Original Message)

Sent: 6/9/2008 7:09 AM

did you girls watch it?

What did you think of it?

I thought they go from one extreme to the other really when you think 'most' women in Aus probly birth 'naturally' in a hospital but there was nothing on that at all.

But I think they were going for the two extremes anyway...

Oh and the caesars were caesars by CHOICE not caesars because it was medically needed. Just women who didnt want to push a baby out and have there nether regions ruined (their words not mine)

One lady said 'I didnt WANT to push something the size of a watermelon out of something the size of a golf ball'

hmmm I said to Brett at the time 'ohh woosey!' lmao

I honestly dont know why people would opt for having major surgery and thats coming from someone who had a yucky intervention during the birth.

But anyway I guess its all a choice and each to their own.

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Message 2 of 8 in Discussion

From:

Honey_Bub84

Sent: 6/9/2008 7:14 AM

I watched it and taped it on the box.

The lady Julie who had the Homebirth was from our November thread. So was good to see someone from Huggies off there.

I thought her birth was AMAZING and actually made me jealous of how easy she made it look. LoL.

I couldn't believe the other woman said she was too posh to push cos she didn't want her "bits" to be wrecked and that would affect her sex life.

Having had an episiotomy and not being able to even SIT for about 4-6 weeks without being in pain, I now have almost the same sex life as before. So I think that is a pathetic excuse.

I personally wouldn't CHOOSE a ceaser, but if I NEEDED it, I would've had it.

Message 3 of 8 in Discussion

From:

Mumto3FairyPrincesses

Sent: 6/9/2008 12:14 PM

I watched it too.

I remembered Julie straight away from the pics we used to put in the nov pics + you told me she would be on lol.

I know!!!! to the women who said they didnt want to ruin there bits. There is a thing called pelvic floor muscles lol.. Plus yeah just made me think woose hehe but at the same time thats there choice.

Not really sure what I thought of either extreme though. I would consider a home birth for sure but probably only with a midwife present and a hospital nearby (which julie had). I would never opt for a ceaser. 3 things I was scared of when preg with Sophie was pooing in labour haha, tearing/episiotomy and a ceaser. Really really scared of a ceaser. All 3 times for that one! Got a bit over the pooing and definatly over the tearing. lol

I am totally for what one women said though - that she had a baby to have a baby not to have a birth which I think is very very true and I do think and have felt some women get adicted to 'birthing' babies. I could very well be guilty of that if I werent careful lol. I will definatly miss giving birth. So amazing and wonderful I would love to do it again just for that lol but I can't.

Was a good watch!

Message 4 of 8 in Discussion

From:

Honey_Bub84

Sent: 6/9/2008 12:38 PM

See I am really kinda jelous of when people say they were empowered or enjoyed giving birth.

My birthing experience is not something I would miss. In fact that is one of the big reasons I'm scared to go back.

Message 5 of 8 in Discussion

From:

Mum-Kel

Sent: 6/10/2008 5:11 AM

wow okay.

Well I did NOT remember her at all.....nor did I know she was from huggies at all or that there was a huggies person going on there...must've been under a rock or something.

I just said to Brett 'omg! she just grunted and pulled her out and then goes its a girl so calmly!!' haha, he said 'I am sure there could of been more to it that they didnt show' lol yes we will say that then! Her hubby didnt look overly helpful.....or was it just me?

Yes I agree with you Hayles that some women obsess over it far too much. I dont think I could see myself being guilty of that - altho a caesar is something I absolute want as a last resort but I am ready and willing if its necessary for medical reasons to help me or baby iykwim. When they came in to ventouse B out after a few failed attempts I was so scared that they were going to have to do a caesar after I had been thru it all and got sooo close iykwim? But this is why I personally would not have a homebirth, I like the idea that all the medical help is there IF I should need it and if I dont GREAT!

I have this pregnancy booklet to fill out for the hospital and in the front there is a birth plan and Brett said just write my plan is to have a baby. lmao

Yes true! For the record, I didnt have a birth plan the first time really either, just told Brett what I intended to do and same this time.

AS for being empowered or enjoying it.....um I dont know if enjoying the pain is right but I guess empowered is true in a way for me....even tho I struggled to push for 3 hours and had to have him suctioned out afterwards I was just so so so proud of myself. Especially when they told me his head circumference! hahaha

and I was very scared for a long time about going back too but I have really read up on things like ventouse now and even the stages of labour again and I understand it soo much more than I did the first time round, I think I was kinda naive the first time and this time I am very ready, willing and hopefully able to go again. Well I say that now anyway! haha!

yeh the story was a good watch, I thought they were fairly fair on the 2 extremes but I know not everyone agrees with that!

Message 6 of 8 in Discussion

From:

Mumto3FairyPrincesses

Sent: 6/12/2008 6:18 AM

Was going to reply to you before kel but must have run out of time.

I agree he didn't look at all overly helpful did he. But then I thought maybe thats the way she wanted it?

She did make it look rather easy - she barly made a sound did she?! As much as Chloe's birth was easy (for a birth) and even Gracie's I still made noises during labour and when they came out was like "omg omg its over its over" iykwim.I am sure your next births girls may not be 'that' easy but alot closer to that easy than the last time.

As much as I don't think she is wrong or whatever for her choices I just think the more I think about it..it looked like a very non emotional experience to me. Yes easy and nice having it at home and in water but with all the cameras and her hubby just sort of hanging around outside the pool barly able to reach in to her just made it all very impersonal if thats the word. I am not sure if that had been a birth of one of my children I would have had the same satisfying feelings I did have with mine?!

Message 7 of 8 in Discussion

From:

Mumto3FairyPrincesses

Sent: 6/12/2008 6:21 AM

Oh and the more I think about it also...

I have seen women on tv give birth before and it was very emotional and made me cry and feel all those feelings and I am really not sure Julie's birth did that at all for me. Was very much just like seeing her in a pool then a baby in her arms. lol

no offence to her though - not that she will knw I said that. hehe

Message 8 of 8 in Discussion

From:

Honey_Bub84

Sent: 6/12/2008 8:16 AM

If I had a Water Birth, Andrew was either going to hope in with me or be on the edge supporting me.

I thought it seemed inpersonal too Hayles.

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