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From: MSN NicknameGrace·Sent: 3/13/2006 2:56 AM
Hi Sandy..... how intrigueing... happy,... sad... and confusing... for this tired brain of mine tonight.
 
I can't get all the generation titles straight, even on paper.
 
I'm assuming your "Nana" refers to your mother's mother... and is short for Grandmother?  After that, I lose the lineage...
 
I'm so glad you shared this with us.  Things were so different back then about how those kind of situations were handled.   There have been several movies of this kind of thing I'm sure.   I do think it is so sad not to have known before they died... so that you each could have enjoyed the true relationships between each other.   My grandparents were all gone before I was even born... so it is awesome to me when others get to have relationships with their great-grandparents and on.  
 
I read in todays paper that a local man, age 44,  was recently reunited with his mother and siblings.   His dad had kidnapped him from her at age 3 and was told they were dead.   She had been looking for him all these years.. and found him through the internet recently.   The man had found out his true last name several years before, and had it changed back.
 
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From: MSN NicknameGrace·Sent: 6/1/2006 5:29 PM
Hi Elizabeth, Dianaro, Hawkeye, and Florence!  So enjoyed each post.  Thanks for taking time to stop by!
We've had rain  here Elizabeth, and will have more rain the rest of this week. 
Last night I declared my 'vacation' of the last 4 months officially over!.. and since it's raining, thought it would be a good time to get to moving boxes and organizing and unpacking!  I'll be starting a new "progress" thread to keep me on my toes!...lol. 
I'm going to pretend we just now moved here and not count the last 4  months.  It's easy to do since in the bedrooms it looks like we just moved here..lol.  New beginnings are so refreshing.
Hi Dianaro... oh my, a stapler was my first "tool" ever!  I stapled wrapping paper to a wall to use as wall paper many many years ago..lol.  And of course fabric to the walls.  I so love the new cordless electric screwdrives they have now...on my second one.  Totally wore out the first one!  I told hubby we'll probably have to buy double of everything as far as hand tools are concerned... his and hers!  I'll paint mine pink...lol.  God bless the inventor of the stapler.  What magic we can work with that tool...even hemming curtains and skirts when needed.
As for the jigsaw puzzle idea... all my ideas are serious..lol.  Sadly.. the "follow through" on my part needs some improvement.  I'm working on that with help from all of you on here.  As I was finishing one yesterday, another component I thought of was to make the pieces thicker... and easier for arthritic hands to pick up.  I appreciate the encouragement about it.  I have no idea how to go about starting such and endeavor.  And in the end...I may not actually do it.  Maybe someone else will.  Time will tell.  It would be fun to have special puzzles made.. with pictures I take with my own camera.  All kinds of ideas pop into my head.  I have on my list to get information from makers of them.  Jigsaw Puzzles will definitely be a major part of my future 2nd hand store.  I am just rolling with ideas for them.  I'll let ya'll know what develops.
Hi Hawkeye... Congratulations on your first grandchild!!  It's such an exciting time of life!!  Our grandson will be 5 in November.  I love that boy in a way I've never loved anything or anyone in my whole life.  It's so totally different and amazing.  Keep us posted on the mother is doing.. and be sure and let us know if prayers are ever needed.  Do hope all goes well, and easily for her.  Is the mother your daughter, or dil..?  Oh what fun you will have buying baby things.  I'm smiling ear to ear just imagining it, and remembering. 
I'm 54, been married 30 years, we have a 33 year old son, and our daughter will be 28 in October. She is the mother of our grandson.  Son hasn't gotten married yet, if ever.  Thankfully daughter's new boyfriend has 3 lovely children, so if they get married I'll have 3 more grandchildren!  May not get any any other way if my kids have any say about it..lol.
When I get my craft stuff set up and start creating something I hope to join ya'll over on that thread!  I belong to a craft msn group board, but have not posted there much because I have not done any sewing or crocheting or anything in ages.  I want to.  Soon!
Please feel free to diagnose me and give me any advice you feel I need..lol.  I need all the help out there available.  My husband's a policeman.  Do you have any connections to police work through your degree?
Hello Florence.... I so enjoyed your reply.  I never understood the term "misery loves company" before.  But somehow, being able to relate with someone else in the same situation does feel comforting.  I'm sure glad you shared your story. We have often considered getting some land and putting a mobile home on it!...will definitely make note of your experiences if we ever do. 
Congratulations on getting your new home started!!  After such a long wait I do hope it can be built quickly for you.  How much has been done so far?  
Where in Texas do you live... if you don't mind saying on here?  I live close to the coast, south of Houston.. outside of Angleton.  If the news ever mentions Surfside Beach during the hurricane season... that's my general area.  I sure hope we don't get on this year.  I am not in any mood to have to evacuate.  I haven't ever unpacked pictures etc from the last hurricane scare we had.  I feel better with this house being almost 5 feet off the ground at least.
You're right about the mindset of knowing a home is not "the" one that will be permanent.  Knowing we may sell it and move in just a few short years or even less if something good comes along, makes me very hesitant to do anything to it right now...the more holes I put in the walls, the more work I will be creating to make it "sell ready". 
We have the title to it.. it's ours...(even though we'll be paying for it for 15 years, unless we sell it)... but, I just don't have a "good" feeling about the situation for some reason... and so I guess that keeps me from relaxing and taking firm 'mental' ownership of it.  I think I still feel like we live in 'her' house..??   Not sure.  Something is missing though. 
I was thinking about it last night... and came up with the theory that we moved here
'physically'.. but I have not yet moved here mentally and emotionally.  That "all" of me is not here yet.  Does that makes sense to anyone?  Is that a probaey analysis? 
I've been much happier the last week or two.. and so I'm hoping I can now move forward and let my soul also be happy here.  It's time.  And I'm ready for that to take place, starting today.
I'll be starting a new "progress" thread to have a place to record my steps of unpacking, sorting, and organizing.  I also want to have a way to make myself accountable for getting the work done.  My thought is that being able to say "I did it!" as often as possible will provide and help keep me filled with positive thoughts and energy. 
Working the several jigsaw puzzles really helped me to see things in a new light.  As I finished the last one last night I kept comparing the process to what we go through when we work on our homes or our lives.  It's all done one piece at a time.
This last puzzle was a bit more difficult...and I found I had to use my brain in different ways to finish the puzzle.  Sometimes I could go by color. Other times I had to go only by the shape of a piece.  And sometimes I had to look at the detail of the piece...for minute shading clues etc to show me where it belonged.
I've been saying I did not 'fit' in this house...because the pieces I feel I just 'had' to have weren't here.  We can't always have our own way can we.  And I might just have to look at the pieces I do have to work with in this house in a different way... kind of like the puzzle pieces. 
If looking at one characteristic of a room isn't telling me where to put something.. then maybe I need to look at the things I want to put in it in a different way.  Shape instead of color...or texture instead of shape.  The pieces of our things WILL go together in this house to form a complete picture.  I may just have to let go of trying to use the old technique for fitting them that I've used in the past.  And look at things in a different way...like with the jigsaw puzzle.
And the final and greatest lesson learned... the more effort you put into finishing the project...the easier and faster the work will go because there will be fewer and fewer pieces to do...and towards the end it will get easier to 'see' where they go.  So today.. the effort has begun!!  And I've already emptied 2 small storage bins...and will be at it all day.
Hugs to all, Grace 
 
 

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From: GraceSent: 6/6/2007 12:17 PM
 
 
 
Good Morning my friends.  ..... The week is half over... half-way to the next weekend!  We are gonna have a lovely day  here today.    What's your  weather like?    
 
Toosh.....  hope you and Anne are able to stay warm over yonder!   
 
Hi Sylvia.... wow.    That does seem odd to have to replace the harddrive so soon.   You are right though.   Nothing lasts very long anymore.   Seems I have to replace my windshield wipers constantly.   They used to last over a year in the good old days.... at least it seemed that way.  
 
My computer is not acting   100% good either.   I made the mistake of downloading the "updates"...and I don't like it at all.     And I have to clean my disc space everyday now... and before,  I did not have all that junk accumulating.   I don't know where it's coming from... has me kind of worried what all I'm picking up at the web sights.  
 
Jeni,  I went back up to look at your picture again ...wishing the sun set on the water down here ....  and when my curser was resting on it an advertisement for Photobucket came up... and so I left clicked on your picture and it sent me to their websight.     I don't know anything about it, and didn't stay long... but it seems pretty neat.   
 
I am so behind and out of the loop about all the new things going on with computers, cameras, phone, ipods, blackberries, ... all things electronic that is....lol.   I feel like a cavewoman total out of sinc with the world some days....lol    I hope to take some college courses this year... the easy, non-credit kind for seniors!    My brain needs the exercise of learning something new after everything I've been through the last few months. 
 
I went with my daughter to go pick up Ethan at his day-care yesterday after she got off work, so that I'd know where to pick him up today.    However... his dad had picked him up at 3pm so we went to his new house in Pearland instead...which is just about 3 or 4 blocks from the day care.  
 
Ethan's dad,  Josh,  got moved into his new house this past weekend.     Been there 2 days.. and everything is all neat, put up, no stacks of boxes like I have.  
 
He said him and his girlfriend Lisa worked non-stop almost all weekend to get it done.   Guess I should do that too???.......work non-stop and get things set up and done!.... but it's more fun taking off to go to the beach instead....lol.   
 
On the other hand,  of course it's super easy to unpack boxes is all you have to do is put stuff away instantly on all the shelves and closet space that already exists... and you have plenty of space and don't have to build shelves or stand for an hour trying to figure out how to make everything fit into smaller space. .   One day... I'll have a large home where everything fits easily and perfectly, and I won't have to think... I'll only have to open a box and set everything out!  (I  had the large house, .. large does not mean things automatically "fit"...  that house was just weird...lol.)
 
Poor Ethan, he cried almost the whole first day at his new day-care.   But on the second day he made a couple of friends, and when his dad picked him up at 3 yesterday Ethan was out running around playing, having a good time.    On the drive home he told me and his mom that he misses all his friends at the old day-care.   I put my hand on his heart and told him he'd always have his friends with  him in his heart, and in his mind everytime he thought about them, for always.   He seemed to like that.   He's looking forward to our trip to the beach this afternoon.
 
And speaking of which.... I need to lay back down for a little bit.   Haven't  decided if I'm going to go into work today,  or take off and make the hours up on Saturday.   I need to clear a few things and get the brownies made before I go get Ethan.    My boss said I can come in when I want, make up my own schedule... totally up to me.   I love that!
 
Hugs to all... and I hope you have a great Wednesday.   
 
 

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From: GraceSent: 9/19/2007 1:23 PM
Jeni.....  you let her live in  your house... you did not "give" it to her !!
 
Lay down some law and rules!!
 
She has no right to do anything without first getting YOUR PERMISSION.
 
TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR LIFE BACK...  You have a right to do that!!
 
It's your life, your home, your things....
 
Just get your butt over there NOW and tell her
 
"hold up missy.... you have crossed the line here...
that I forgot to tell you existed.... so back up...and lets talk about this
and get some ground rules laid."  
 
Is just getting hugs and sex and kisses and cooked meals from Nate 
really worth giving up your life for???
 
She has her own house now that she can live in free..fully
furnished by the way.    
 
Get out of Nates house,  get back into  your house
and tell Nate if he wants to get screwed he'll have to come
to your place to do it.
 
Quit letting people walk all over you Jeni....
especially Nate!
 
Go home, now...and take back control of your life. 
 

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From: GraceSent: 9/23/2007 9:27 PM
 wish I knew how to add all of those fancy pictures to this email, but I don't. Guess I ain't smart enough for that....lol
 
But I wanted you to know how special you are to me. Too bad in life we don't know or apprecitate what we have until it's not there. I love you with all my heart. I have made many mistakes, don't know if you will be able to forgive me or not.
 
But you are special. I miss seeing you each day, just to know you are there. Your voice, your smile, your eyes, the way you would just touch me, the smell of your hair. Just everything about you. You are very special, and deserve so much more. I want to be to be the one to give you the things you deserve.
 
You say you are changing, and don't know if i will be able to accept you. It doesn't matter, you are still you, just a better you. I love you more than I can say, and I WILL WIN YOU BACK!
 
Just remember you are always with me, always in my mind and heart.
 
Love  you always........
 
Oh yeah, looking forward to our date..

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From: GraceSent: 9/28/2007 2:18 PM
 
Good Morning,
I wanted to share with you all something that I found the other day on the internet that my ExN posted. Now, I no longer talk to him, nor do I ever want to, but I know how devient he is, and from time to time I check on  a site that I know he frequents.
Well here is his question and his post:
Midget House Slaves
Any idea ow to acquire a female for voluntary slavery in a well to do house hold?
she would need to provide both male/female sex at need. Routine house work and provice future children for slavery. Nothing unpleasant except deviant sex/drug pleasurant to homeowners. Life would be very enjoyable and the ability to leave would be anytime with complete non-disclosure papers drawn up. Someone similar to a #2 wife. They don't really need to be a midge, just cute, young, pretty and a better life>>>>
Now, this is the mind of my ExN. Now, should I be concerned that this guy is out to really hurt someone or should I think otherwise?

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From: GraceSent: 9/28/2007 3:04 PM
From: Grace* Sent: 9/27/2007 10:38 PM
Wow... I got such a nice surprise when I just went and checked the Narcissist Support Recovery group I'm in..... the following message was waiting for me...
 
I just want to thank you for your insightful posts on this board! You are so new here and yet have shared so much knowledge and such a positive outlook. I am having a very difficult time these days and haven't posted much, but I've been glued to this board every day! I love to read your posts and wish you peace, love and contentment in your new journey in life. You seem to have already found it!
 
God always knows how and when to bless us in the way we most need it.  I
was so down about my finances... and to find this tonight was such an encouragement to me to keep standing in the faith that has carried me this far.
 
Sylvia... the group is about healing from the damage and wounds inflicted on us by narcissists... who lie to us in horrible ways, use us in cruel ways, and deeply damage our sense of self esteem and worth..and more.   So many people out there are being abused by these kind of damaged humans... it's really quite sad. ..and kind of scary too, to realise that.  
 
My abuse was mild compared to what some have suffered...and as damaged as I became from being married to  one, imagine the worse damage others are having to cope with and heal from.  Hearing each others stories and experiences... helps clear up the fog in our brain.. and gets our upside down thinking turned right side up.  
 
Light bulbs of understanding go off as we see... "ohhhh... me too!.. so that's why...."  And each time one does, more weight of guilt or self-blame is lifted off our shoulders and out of our minds and we get to feeling a little bit lighter, and a little more 'ok' with ourselves.  
 
 And... just like with divorce.. there is anger to also contend with.
So it's good to have someplace to talk over everything about it.. with people
who are also suffering the concequences of that kind of relationship.. and completely know and understand what you are feeling and going through.
 
And sharing our progess... brings surprising gifts like the post above. 
I am so amazed at  how God reaches down and always knows when, where, and how to do exactly the thing for us we most need done... to keep us safe and on the path of faith and hope. 
 
A narcissist sucks  you empty and dry of  your self worth.    So to be "thanked" for being me.. instead of rejected for it...  is  such a soothing balm to my soul.
 
I have gotten so much of that same balm from you all here.... I would not
be who I am now.. if not for you all carrying me through the darkest of the times.   You gave to me... and I in turn have now been able to give to others.... we form a circle of giving... all blessed and healed.. by love.
 
Thank  you...   Grace

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From: GraceSent: 2/18/2008 10:44 AM

  ...... Hello.....  got  my extra strong eyeglasses on.   I'm  going on a hunt to find Spring.   The Great Spring Search is on ...

 


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