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From: MSN Nicknameshef©  (Original Message)Sent: 12/21/2008 10:52 AM
Ok - we came home 6 months ago - Dick had a 'good job'. That fell apart in october but he found another in a couple of days so .... we're doing well! His new job was great - driving big tractors, typical big boy stuff. Three weeks ago he started doing irrigation with other team members ie -driving out to the paddock with the boys, setting up, driving home! Only - most of 'the boys' are mobsters, and they like to smoke stuff to keep them happy during the day. Dick doesn't!! He went and saw the boss and told him he was unhappy about the drugs smoked at work (to be honest he will have a toke or two but NOT when driving -machinery or private vehicle)  At the beginning of last week he worked out that they weren't just smoking dope (the aggression(sp) and behaviour was WAY OTT)  so bypassed the boss and went and saw the owners and told them there was no way he was going to turn a blind eye to drug use while guys were driving machinery around where it involved the public! They admitted they can't sack the drivers because they can't replace them so he walked out then and there! By the way they were behaving, we are fairly sure they are smoking P.
 
I am loath to approach the police - when he approached the manager about the dope, there were threats made, now that he's made more serious allegations, they've made (ambiguous)VERY  serious threats.  Yes I am seriously shitting myself. 
 
My question is - I have stashed cans of oven cleaner around the house (yeah I know it's dumb but we have no weapons or means of defence)
If I use them - can I be charged with using a weapon. 
 In about three weeks or so they will be harvesting/cultivating in the immediate nieghbourhood, they know where we live, and I have no idea what to do!


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From: MSN NicknameBrownie49 Sent: 12/21/2008 11:18 AM
Oh bloody hell Shef what an awful situation to be in. Do you think that the gang members know why he left his job?  Ash will be able to give you some good advice I am sure. In the meantime I am thinking of you both.

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From: MSN Nicknamekarey64Sent: 12/21/2008 8:11 PM
OK Shef - take a deep breath.
 
1  Dick went to management who declined to do anything.  This gives you at least some power.  Write to management.  In the letter state that you are fearful of the repocussions from the druggies.  Point out that Dick went to management not the cops and as such you expect management to keep their staff under control.  ANY act of aggression or threat will be taken to the police, together with a copy of 'this' letter letting them know that management knew. 
 
A copy of 'this' letter will also be sent to your lawyer, OSH and any other bloody agency you can find together with Campbell Live, 20/20 and 60 Minutes. 
 
Let them know you will anihilate them.
 
2  Set up some motion senitive web cams.  At least one more if you can.
 
3   Don't count on oven cleaner.  You have to get to the can, then have it facing the right direction to use it, as well as being close enough to use it.
 
My cunning solution is to get some high powered water pistols and fill them with amonia.  When you are asked why they were filled with amonia, you say they had developed mould and you were cleaning them but forgot in the heat of the moment.  Every one is going to know that is bs, but they can't prove it is bs.
 
I don't think they are going to get close enough for any hand to hand stuff anyway.  They might yell some stuff or use some scare tactics, but they know Dick didn't go to the cops or get them fired.  They know he left and as such he is next to no threat to them anyway.  Reinforce that with management and hold them accountable.
 
Hugs
 

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From: MSN Nicknameshef©Sent: 12/24/2008 7:14 AM
Hi Brownie
Thanks Karey.
Dick went and saw the bosses on Monday (once the drivers had left for the day).
They are extremely grateful that he brought it to their attention, they had no idea the problem was that bad. Looks like the manager is DTR though. They have told the drivers that at this stage, if there is NO drug use at work, they will leave the police out of it. But if Dick or any member of his family is in any way threatened or repercussions taken then the COMPANY will refer the matter to police.
So I am feeling better, plus I have Tim's dogs here as well as my own. Two are really huge huntaways and two smaller dogs. Yet the smaller dogs are the more agressive and protective - go figure!
At this stage it doesn't look like Dick will be able to start work until the New Year but the mortgage is covered for the short time as the owners paid out his full stats (which they had no obligation to do, because of the stand he made)

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From: LoveleeSent: 12/27/2008 9:38 AM
I would have suggested going to the police
 
Problem with this is 'no drug use at work' doesnt mean they cant have one in the car when they arrive at work.  Not to mention the problems which may arise if one has an accident while under the influence, and the company knew about the drug use.
 
I realise he had to keep the family safe
 
You have as many weapons as u need - youd have the whole of NZ behind you

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