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From: Kutz  (Original Message)Sent: 10/18/2006 12:19 AM
In another thread I mentioned a stock that pays me between a 7-8% dividend yield, while it trades in a range and chases its tail.  This is the stock (SSW)-don't think I have mentioned it yet here specifically.  It is a shipping company.  It is fairly new to public trading (2005?).
 
They currently have 17 ships on the high seas moving goods from the Far East.  For me it is a long term play. No quick monster profits here. I keep buying blocks of shares periodically when its chasing its tail backwards.  It moves towards its 52 week high and then backs off recently.
 
I invest for future growth here. My profits here will not likely occur until 2008-2009. They have plans to have a fleet of 41 ships by 2009 and keep receiving new ships as they have them built. More new ships coming in Q4.  They also then set up charter contracts to keep them busy at a daily fee.  Pretty stable stuff unless the company experiences a sinking ship, collision, or a serious recession. Not sexy-got to have a few of these in the portfolio!   
 
Lets face it guys, manufacturing in China is not going away very likely.
 
Sure there are bigger players in this arena-anybody else invest in this kind of stuff?
 
Kutz 


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From: MSN NicknamemacroscopicSent: 12/22/2008 6:21 PM
Kutz- i am taking off in about an hour.  Happy Holidays!

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From: KutzSent: 1/6/2009 8:11 PM
Another nice day-looking to attack $11.00 soon!  DRYS is up nicely too.  Shipping was just plain oversold! 
 
There is pressure on shipping in general, but shipping does not disappear.  You link up to the good ones and one will be fine!
 
GO SSW!
 
Kutz 

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From: BrunoSent: 1/6/2009 9:23 PM
Happy new year  Kutz,   as I like to say, its hard to keep a good stock down  go  SSW

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From: MSN NicknamemacroscopicSent: 1/6/2009 9:35 PM


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From: KutzSent: 1/6/2009 9:45 PM
Imagine what this pig would do if they increased the dividend into this economic uncertainity!  I don't think they will reduce or delete it!  We should be hearing from Jerry in the next several weeks!
 
There are a lot of new ships scheduled to come out of drydock this year (2009) already signed to contracts-BIGUNS too!
 
Sitting on my 2,200 shares, praying we don't have a total depression-LOL
 
Kutz 

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From: KutzSent: 1/7/2009 3:30 PM
As alluded to just took about $800.00 in profit off of shares sold in SSW.  Still have a boatload!
 
Kutz 

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From: KutzSent: 1/8/2009 5:14 PM
Here is one analyst evaluation for 2009 on SSW.  I agree heavily with most of it.  I like his explanation of the swaps and its effects-most do not understand it and it has been one stimulator of a dropping PPS.
 
 
Kutz 

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From: KutzSent: 1/13/2009 3:59 PM
Container ship building is hardly drying up.
 
 
Kutz 

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From: KutzSent: 1/16/2009 1:36 PM
SSW declares a 4Q dividend to be paid out to holders as of Feb 2, 2009.  No changes, no increase,  and no reduction.  IMO hedging both ways with world slowdown-smart to me.
 
 
Kutz 

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From: MSN Nicknametrader1963Sent: 1/16/2009 3:32 PM
Kutz It might be a good time to take a profit if you have one in SSW. From what I read the dry container shipping folks are selling space for break even of less just to try to keep from shutting down . I know there a lot of view points here, but with the world economy in the dumper it makes sense......

trader

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From: MSN NicknameScott482Sent: 1/16/2009 5:00 PM
I'm not sure how this affects SSW... they don't sell space on ships, they have long term leases on the ships... These leases collect the same amount of revenue, whether the ship is full and in use, or sitting idle in port... (Except when down for repairs)...
 
... this does not prevent companies from defaulting in their leases... so the economy does need some consideration...

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From: KutzSent: 1/16/2009 5:29 PM
Heh Trader!  Well I did sell some about 4-5 posts ago and traded some for profit.  The core 2000 I have are currently from break even to under water pricewise"due to the precipitious drop in all shippers over the last 4-6 months.  If I knew it was going to do that-I'd have sold them and bought back in-not that smart-LOL!  It isn't fair to SSW, but I believe bulker problems and fear of the global economy degradation, caused container shippers to be unfairly punished along with bulkers!  Contianers dragged with bulkers!
 
Dry bulkers (as you point out) are having pricing problems because their contracts signed to ship are shorter.  Pricing pressure results.  Therefore they are more price sensitive to to changes and more exposed.  Even DRYS has bounced off the bottom, but is still pretty depressed-it will change in 6-18 months for them too.
 
Most container  shippers and "contract shippers" like SSW are different.  Their contracts are very longterm (generally 7-12 years) with protective terms within the contracts. To punitive for contract cancellations.   SSW is only signed up with the biggest!  There is PPS pressure on those big shippers if one owns shares, but they "really" take a long term outlook to shipping and fleet planning, are very profitable averaging years, and are just simply more likely to use SSW in place of their own depreciating and aging ships!  This makes SSW more immune to pricing fluctuations (though nothing is for sure) because they already give these shippers a daily fee break in return for signing on longterm.  That makes SSW contracts more economical for classic shippers to use than to actually run their own and total risk/costs are shared!  
 
According to SSW whose ships are mostly new, they have no expiring contracts until 2012 and most are in 2015 and later.  Their ships are very young in their life cycle and thats important!
 
With the global economy as it is, I don't see great appreciation in SSW PPS for a while (a bit here and there off of oversold positions from 2008).  Incremental!  I expect SSW to hold their divvy for year 2009 to where it is.  If things improve they will bump in 2H2009-IMO! Their mid-term problem is the need to raise cash in 2010. Their credit is great, but credit markets suck currently!   They have a lot of new ships coming out (all signed to contracts in advance (7-12 years).  They are covered for this year!
 
For 2009, I think I am fine here, but if the PPS grows form here, I will not hesitate to profit take!  If the PPS drops back to 6-7, I'll just buy more and trade em!!  Oh and collect the divvy as long as they throw it at me!
 
Have a good weekend!
 
Kutz 
 
 
 
 

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From: KutzSent: 1/19/2009 11:37 AM
Found this out there!  Whether you believe SSW business model will do well in this economic environment (I do-its less than 40 ships active for them), it is obvious that shipping in general is totally stressed!  See the article.
 
I certainly am not buying any other shipping companies anytime soon!  Again when you read this remember that SSW has long term per/day contracts signed.  Contracts are always made to be broken, but I believe SSW contracts would be the last to go!--JMO!  Therefore I hold-but there are always dangers!
 
 
Kutz 

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From: MSN NicknamemacroscopicSent: 1/19/2009 6:10 PM
the commodities market appears to be heating up, still.  other than that, this market looks quite bearish.

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