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REQUESTS : Outback's dark bread
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From: PhaeCB  (Original Message)Sent: 3/24/2003 10:34 PM
Does anybody know where to find a recipe for the dark bread they serve you at the Outback?
 
Thanks
-Phae


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From: MSN NicknameMcClug1Sent: 3/25/2003 5:01 PM

I didn't have the recipe so I sent the Outback Steak House a note requesting it.  Maybe they will be willing to share...Meanwhile, here's what I found at http://homecooking.about.com    It may be what you've been looking for.

Outback Bread

3 packages dry yeast
1/2 cup warm water
1 tablespoon sugar
1 cup warm water
1/2 cup dark molasses
1 tablespoon salt
2 tablespoons oil
2 cups rye flour
2-1/2 to 3 cups all-purpose flour

  1. Soften yeast in 1/2 cup warm water. Stir in sugar. Let stand 6 minutes or till bubbly.
  2. Meanwhile in large mixing bowl combine 1 cup warm water with molasses, salt, oil and rye flour. Beat to smooth batter. Then work in all-purpose flour till dough is smooth and no longer sticky, very pliable and elastic. Knead a few minutes. Let rise till doubled in greased bowl. Punch down.
  3. Shape into 2 large round loaves placed a few inches apart on greased and cornmeal dusted cookie sheet or fill 6 mini foil loaf pans, greased and dusted in cornmeal, with the dough, dividing it evenly between these little pans. Either way let loaves rise till doubled in warm place.
  4. Bake large loaves 375 degrees F. about 30 minutes or till crust makes hollow sound when tapped with knuckles. For tiny loaves place pans on dry ungreased cookie sheets, a few inches apart. When doubled in size, bake at 375 degrees F. for about 20 minutes until crust makes that hollow sound when tapped. Bread freezes beautifully.

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From: MSN NicknameMcClug1Sent: 3/27/2003 2:20 PM
PhaeCB, I received this reply from Outback today:
 
G'day mate,

Thank you for taking the time to write to us.  Our brown bread
is a honey wheat bread, that is made specially for Outback, at a bakery
in Pennsylvania.  Unfortunately, we are unable to share any of our
recipes.

We appreciate your patronage and hope to see you soon at the Outback.

Your friends at Outback Steakhouse
 
Maybe if you substitute honey for the molasses in the above recipe from Homecooking you'll get something close to what you're looking for.  However, we at Noncooks never give up.  The search for the real product continues:
  
 


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From: MSN NicknameDiAnhnaSent: 3/27/2003 4:52 PM
Thank you for finding this recipe.. I was just going to go to all the work of posting my own.. Which is an old Amish recipe for dark breads.
  Remember.. When you use heavier flours..  ie. Whole wheat, Blended Wheat, Rye flour, Straight wheat germ, rye.  A Sourdough starter...  Your dough will take longer to rise..
    A tip here.. Add just a bit more YEAST AND SUGAR TO YOUR RECIPE..  Just a little of each.. The Every Bakery does!! They also use yeast food and milk powder's.. Even if they say they don't.. Even our little bakery can get away without telling you everything that goes in our bread.
   Rule of thumb.. The darker the bread the heavier the dough.. The more yeast and sugar your flours need..
   Beware of recipes that call for only wheat flour.. These are very heavy doughes and hard to make. As a baker, I cannot think of any bread on the MARKET that does not have WHITE flour some PLACE in the recipe.. 7- Grain Bread's are the same.. The heavier the dough... Add abit more yeast and sugar..
  Don't worry about your bread becoming SWEET.. The flours and yeast will eat up your sugar's..
  Of course, I meant JUST A PINCH.. A LITTLE.. MAYBE A TEASPOON PER  2 cups OF DOUGH..  ie.. YOUR FLOUR'S..  Good luck with this recipe.. Any questions.. I might be able to help you..  Dianne. 

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From: MSN NicknameDiAnhnaSent: 3/27/2003 4:58 PM
One more thought.. Honey can be sub's for molassas.. I will look for some honey bread's in my Amish or old cookbooks.. Molassas will give you a richer deeper, darker flavor and color.  You know the 2 sugar's are made from different agent's.. Honey  from BEE'S.. Molassas from cane sugar or sorghum.. 
   I don't know all that much about cooking with honey as I usually do not choose this sugar agent. 
   I have made the bread, or a recipe very close to it in my own kitchen..  I'll get a look see..  Maybe not today though.. Busy, this afternoon. Dianne.

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From: MSN NicknameDiAnhnaSent: 3/29/2003 3:00 PM
My recipe for Rye Bread. Remember this one is old..
1 cup scalded milk
1 Tbsp salt
2 Tbsp. shorting
3 Tbsp. molasses
1-2 yeast cakes  = 3-4 packets or 3-4 Tbsp. dry yeasts.
1 cup lukewarm water
4 cups sifted white flour
2 cups unsifted rye flour
     Mix salt, shortening, molasses and hot milk. Cool to lukewarm. Add yeast and flour. Knead 5 minutes. Let rise til double. Knead down and let rise again. Put into loaves. Bake 7 minutes at 425 degrees and bake 20  minutes more at 350 degrees.
  You use the water to dissovle the yeast.. Add about 2 Tbls sugar to this..  Like I said.. These ladies figure.. EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT TO DO.. Yeast gets added to luke warmed milk mixture. Then enough flour to make a WORKABLE DOUGH.. You'll know what I mean. Not stick but yet not stiff.. Start with the white, add half rye flour repeat. The hot milk will melt your lard or Crisco. Knead your dough until it becomes a smooth ball.. Often times this takes alot longer than 5 minutes. If you have a bread hook on your mixer, 5 minutes might do it.. I do not know if this will work in a bread machine or not. I don't own one of those..
If you don't know how to make a yeast bread.. I can walk you through the process.  Good Luck. Dianne.
 

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From: MSN NicknameDiAnhnaSent: 3/29/2003 3:19 PM
Here's another recipe for BROWN BREAD.. This one is newer.. More directions... Tee Hee!! Almost ALL MY BROWN BREAD RECIPES USE RAISINS AND OATMEAL.. The raisins will give the bread a sweetness and oatmeal texture. This is a very good bread..
Brown Bread
3 cups oatmeal.. I use quick-cooking.
3 tsp salt
2 tbls shortening : lard or Crisco
1 cup seedless raisins
3 cups boiling water
1 cake yeast = 1-2 pgk yeast or 2 tbls dried
1 cup lukewarm water
1 cup light or dark for ricer flavor, molasses
1 cup all-bran. The ORGINIAL..
1 cup whole wheat flour
4 1/2-5 cups white flour
     Combine oatmeal, salt, shortening, raisins, and boiling water; cool to lukewarm. Add yeast softened in lukewarm water. Add about 1 tsp sugar per pgk yeast to water.  Stir this well. Add; Molasses, bran and whole-wheat flour. Beat vigorously. Add while flour to form soft dough. Knead lightly on floured surface. Until your dough forms a smooth ball. Add flour to board as needed.. You'll see what I mean. Place in greased bowl;cover and let rise until doubled in bulk. Mold in 3 loaves; place in greased loaf pans and let rise until very light. Doubled. Bake in moderate oven 375 for 1 hour or so. Makes three 1-pound loaves. If useing the larger loaf pans..ie 1 1/2 pound size which most you will find today are... Divide dough between 2 pans. Bake until bread sounds hollow when tapped. Knock on it as you would a door. Gently, though. Good Luck, Dianne.

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From: MSN NicknameDiAnhnaSent: 3/29/2003 3:20 PM
I have several other dark bread recipes if these aren't what your are talking about.. Dianne.
  Again, any questions on how to bake bread from stratch... Ask me.. I do this for a living.. Dianne.

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From: MSN NicknameMcClug1Sent: 3/29/2003 4:42 PM
Phae, I went to http://groups.msn.com/SecretRestaurantRecipes/homepage.msnw and left a message requesting the Outback Steak House Dark Bread recipe.  You may want to check with them later and see if it got any responses.
When it comes to research, we Noncooks never give up!
 

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From: MSN NicknameMcClug1Sent: 3/29/2003 4:56 PM
Well! Well! Well!     This surely does look promising, does it not?  This is from http://www.kitchenlink.com/copycat.html.  They have 11 Outback Bread recipes listed for you to check out if you feel so inclined...
 

Top Secret Recipes
version of
Outback Steakhouse
®
Honey Wheat Bushman Bread
®

by Todd Wilbur

     Along with an entree at this popular steakhouse chain, comes a freshly baked loaf of this dark, sweet bread, served on it's own cutting board with soft whipped butter. One distinctive feature of the bread is its color. How does the bread get so dark? While you may notice the recipe includes instant coffee and cocoa, these ingredients will not give it it's deep dark chocolate brown color - not even close. Usually breads that are this dark -- such as pumpernickel or dark bran muffins -- contain caramel color, an ingredient often used in the industry to darken foods. Since your local supermarket will not likely have this mostly commercial product, we will make the caramel color from a mixture of three food colorings -- red, yellow and blue. Just be sure to get the food coloring in the little droppers so that you can count the drops as you measure. That's very important to getting the color just right. You may also opt to keep the color out. The bread will certainly taste the same, but will look nothing like the real deal. I suggest using a bread machine for the mixing and kneading, if you have one.

Dough
1 1/2 cups warm water
2 tablespoons butter, softened
1/2 cup honey
2 cups bread flour
1 2/3 cups wheat flour
1 tablespoon cocoa
1 tablespoon granulated sugar
2 teaspoons instant coffee
1 teaspoon salt
2 1/4 teaspoons (1 pkg.) yeast

Coloring
1/4 cup water
75 drops red food coloring
45 drops blue food coloring
30 drops yellow food coloring

cornmeal for dusting
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1. If using a bread machine, add all of the ingredients for the dough in the exact order listed into the pan of your machine. Set it on "knead" and when the machine begins to mix the dough, combine the food coloring with 1/4 cup of water and drizzle it into the mixture as it combines. After the dough is created let it rest to rise for an hour or so. Then remove it from the pan and go to step #3.
2. If you are not using a bread machine, combine the flours, cocoa, sugar, coffee and salt in large bowl. Make a depression or "well" in the middle of the dry mixture. Pour the warm water into this "well," then add the butter, honey and yeast. Combine the food coloring drops with 1/4 cup of water and add that to the "well." Slowly mix the ingredients with a spoon, drawing the dry ingredients into the wet. When you can handle the dough, begin to combine it by hand, kneading the dough thoroughly for at least ten minutes, until it is very smooth and has a consistent color. Set the dough into a covered bowl in a warm place for an hour, to allow it to rise.
3. When the dough has risen to about double in size, punch it down and divide it into 8 even portions (divide dough in half, divide those halves in half, and then once more). Form the portions into tubular shaped loaves about 8 inches long and 2 inches wide. Sprinkle the entire surface of the loaves with cornmeal and place them on a cookie sheet, or two. Cover the cookie sheet(s) with plastic wrap and let the dough rise once more for another hour in a warm location.
4. Preheat the oven to 350 degrees. Uncover the dough and bake it for 20-24 minutes in the hot oven. Loaves should begin to darken slightly on top when done. Serve warm with a sharp bread knife and butter on the side. If you want whipped butter, like you get at the restaurant, just use an electric mixer on high speed to whip some butter until it's fluffy. (http://www.topsecretrecipes.com)
Makes 8 small loaves.

Tidbits

It is normal for this dough to be a bit tacky and to seem somewhat thin. Just be sure to add plenty of flour to your hands and work surface when working with the dough to prevent sticking.
If you are able to find caramel color, you can use that with 1/4 cup of water in place of the food coloring formula described in the recipe. 


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From: MSN NicknameDiAnhnaSent: 3/29/2003 7:04 PM
If you ask a real bakery.. Not a proof and bake one.. You might be able to buy a small bottle of Carm. Color.. This is a mixture of all these colorings, plus  a little water. Don't get any of these on your skin or clothes.. They will stain!!  We will sell you a small bottle.. You bring the bottle.. A little goes a long way with this!!! 1/4 cup is WAY more than we use for most of our 30-40 pound wheat doughs. Dark rye's.. We might use 1/4 cup..  Unless the recipe needs the extra water.. Don't add it.. You can work in the Carm. color by hand or your machine will just as well. Start with a cap full ..Tablespoon by tablespoon;  Get your dough to the color you like. To dark?  Too Bad!! There isn't much you can do with this..
  Like I said.. No need to diluite the coloring.. Just use LESS!!! A win- WIN thing for everyone!!!  Good LUck..
  This recipe is a very sweet dough.. It will be very sticky in your hands.. Flour your hands WILL HELP WORK THE DOUGH!! Good Luck. Dianne.

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