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From: MSN Nicknamevampygal0  (Original Message)Sent: 10/2/2008 2:35 AM
If anyone is interested here is some hydrogen news.
Honda says it will be a decade before the Clarity enters mass production and could be longer before hydrogen fuel is readily available to drivers across North America.
In other news The EU has voted in favor of a law establishing a Europe wide network of Hydrogen filling stations and to create safety standards for hydrogen vehicles.
China is pushing Hydrogen technology with Shanghai being the first city to plan a hydrogen infrastructure. The Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology wants at least 1k hydrogen vehicles on the road by 2010 in time for the World Expo. Shell Hydrogen opened the first hydrogen filling station in Shanghai in november of 2007. A year before, BP and SinoHytec opened a hydrogen station in Bejing.
New Hydrogen vehicles include city transport vehicles for Shanghai including city buses and passenger vehicles being designed by GM and other companies for the Chinese market.


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From: MSN NicknameLonbear2Sent: 10/3/2008 6:03 PM
I am ALWAYS interested in hydrogen news.  As usual though Americans will be left behind due to lack of leadership and not for lack of technology.  When did America cease to be the innovator and leader in technology?  It seems that now we will only change kicking and screaming.  If the same amount of us got onto our reps in washington about a serious energy policy that called about that BS $700 billion bailout or the rich, things could change fast.  I am not holding my breath.  I had to sell my big chevy truck because I drive almost 100 miles a day to work and back.  I still see plenty of them on the road driving 75 to 80 mph everyday flipping me off because I drive a reasonable speed to save fuel.  Unless you are close to 50 like me you do not really remember the first fuel embargo in the early 70s.  Most young people under 35 have not really ever seen hard times.  Remember the Carter years when interest rates were around 18%?  If I could buy CDs now for what I was getting them for back then I could just about retire. 
I love my country.  I spent 8 years in the Army--4 over seas never coming home-- and I gave both my knees, my righ foot, lower back, and frost bite for my country.  The most interesting thiing I found living in many countries is how we are viewed by them.  Sadly, they are correct many, many times.  We import our brain power, ship our jobs overseas, see education as a hiderance, etc.  Do we as a people and a nation have the stomach for a revolution?  I really doubt it.  On the positive side, thanks to the Iraq war we will have a well trained army ready if it ever did come to that living next to you.  One interesting thing I learned in college was something from my poly-sci teacher:  He said that revolutions never occure when things are bad and getting worse, they occure when things are getting better and then stop.
Soon I will be getting my MS.  I will be able to retire in 4 to 8 years.  I am going to be faced with the idea of leaving my country.  Many, and some here, will say "go, we do not need you anyway".  Maybe that is true, but if my skills and abilities would be welcomed elsewhere,  why are they so despised here?
 
Sorry for the long rant but this has been building for a long time.  Not against anyone here but just life in general, everyday.  Just a little food for thought.
My 2c
Lonser

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From: MSN Nicknamevampygal0Sent: 10/4/2008 8:47 AM
This is my Canadian perspective and it may offend some here but so be it.
First of all, don't lecture me on America being the greatest. I have been to America more than once and seen for myself the average American is no better off than the average Canadian.
Many Canadians don't like America because we often see Americans as snobs. They are taught to believe they are superior to the rest of the world. They see Canada as a pesty younger cousin. They want to exploit our natural resources, they are unable to tap their own because the enviromentalist wackos in America won't allow it. Americans themselves have told me that. And yet they call us a liberal lunatic haven.
96 Canadian soldiers have died in Afghanistan at last count, per capita that at least equals American casualties over there but Americans don't want to give us any credit for our role in the war on terror.
I could go on but i think it would be best if i shut up now.
Anyway Lonbear if you decide you want to move here come on up. We would be glad to have you.

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From: MSN NicknameJreb1861Sent: 10/4/2008 1:27 PM
"exploit our natural resources"
 
...........no one in Canada complained when they dumped millions of boardfeet of lumber in the US market a few years ago. Sure made it hard on lumber mills here. Jreb

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From: MSN NicknameLonbear2Sent: 10/4/2008 6:42 PM
Vampy,
I never said America was the greatest.  I said we USED to be the leader in technology and inovation.  I am very much aware of how other countries view us.  In Europe they can tell an American usuually because we are way over weight, loud, and generally rude.  We do not hold any patents on being loud or rude but we seem to bear the brunt of blame.  For the most part, many countries would fall apart if they did not have vast amounts of natural resources to exploit GB comes to mind there.  Cut off that north sea oil and it will come down.  We will probably fall apart for just the opposite reasons. 
Thanks for the iinvite.  Maybe I will come up there and teach for a stretch some day.  I do not think I can take the cold.  Frost bite never goes away and cold weather really causes problems.  I think I will try Brasil.  Up and coming, still like Americans, are building a large new tech university where I would fit right in, and its warm.  Portugeuse isn't any harder than Spanish so Bom Gia!    America will fall apart sooner or later just like every other country has done.  I just do not want to be around or even be alive when it happens.
Take care

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From: MSN NicknameCatdancing4u2Sent: 10/5/2008 12:37 PM
Many Canadians don't like America because we often see Americans as snobs.
 
And many Americans view Canadians in the same way, though it is totally wrong for either to be doing this. We should be working together for the common good.
 
There are plenty of Americans that are totally disgusted with what this country is doing to itself and others just as I am sure there are plenty of Canadians that don't like a lot of things their country is doing. So don't lump us all into one basket. We don't all stand United. Some of us still have a mind of our own.

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