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General : Is Obama even a citizen???
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From: MSN NicknameJreb1861  (Original Message)Sent: 10/9/2008 3:58 PM

Barack Obama Is Not a US Citizen

Monday, 25 August 2008 03:28 www.daily.pk
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Birth Certificate Found in Kenya. Citizen of Kenya and Indonesia. Hawaiian Certificate Forged.


On Aug. 21st attorney Philip J. Berg requested an injunction in Federal Court against the nomination of Barack Obama, citing evidence that candidate Barack Obama is not a US citizen, and "the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated."

Berg argues that Barack Obama was born in Kenya in 1961 to an American woman, Stanley Ann Dunham, and a Kenyan man, Barack Hussein Obama Senior, as reportedly shown by a birth certificate from Mombasa Maternity Hospital. According to the law at that time, a parent could pass US citizenship on to a child born abroad if the parent was at least 19 years old. Obama's mother was only 18.

No hospital birth certificate has been produced to show Obama was born in Hawaii, only a certificate of birth registry after the fact, which forensics experts have denounced as a forgery.

Moreover, when Obama was six years old his mother remarried and moved with her husband to his country, Indonesia. Records indicate Obama was naturalized as an Indonesian citizen. Indonesia does not allow dual nationality, so even had he been born in Hawaii, he would have lost his citizenship then.

Even if Obama is able to provide a US birth certificate, a dozen more insurmountable scandals face this unelectable candidate, which the Republicans can hardly wait to unleash on him after he is nominated.

1. When Obama recently made an issue of the number of houses the McCains own, McCain shot back with much heavier artillery: Obama's friend Rezko is a convicted felon, sitting in jail. Obama is the candidate of Chicago corruption. His other cronies Auchi and Alsammare are also convicted felons who have stolen hundreds of millions from the Iraqi Provisional authority and from the government in Illinois. This has been detailed by investigative journalist Evelyn Pringle on opednews, and by Webster Tarpley in his forthcoming book, "Barack H. Obama: the Unauthorized Biography."

2. Obama has very close links to the convicted Weathermen terrorist bombers Bill Ayres and Bernardine Dohrn. He shared board memberships with Ayres on the Woods Fund and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. This and most of the following scandals are detailed in Tarpley's "Obama - The Postmodern Coup: Making of a Manchurian Candidate," released in June.

3 Obama is very close to the racist demagogues Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Otis Moss III, Hopkins, Meeks, and Pfleger.

4 Obama has been accused in Federal Court of using crack cocaine by Larry Sinclair, along with gay sex. The Obama camp retaliated by arresting Sinclair in an enemies list operation by Beau Biden, son of veep candidate Joe Biden.

5. The mysterious deaths of black gays in and around Wright's Church: Donald Young, Nate Spencer, Larry Bland could be linked to Obama.

6. Obama's relations to Chechen Terrorism through Ilyas Achmadov.

7. His Relations to CIA-controlled Palestinian factions Khalidi and Abu Nimah.

8. The mysterious deaths of key Clinton delegates and floor leaders just before the convention: Bill Gwatney and Tubbs Jones.

9. The alleged Michelle Obama Hate Whitey tape.

10. Two mysterious envelopes sent to McCain HQ with powder in them raised questions of what Obama's fanatical supporters may be capable of.

Then of course there is the problem that Obama is a very weak candidate as regards appeal across the spectrum. In the primaries Obama was not able to carry any of the big Blue states that a Democrat has to win in the electoral college for the general election.

Obama is not able to appeal to the electorate on the issues, only on his personality. His attempt to appear populist fails since he is in fact the puppet of the right-wing Chicago School and revanchist Brzezinski faction. Instead of offering what the great majority of Americans want, peace abroad and fixing the economy at home, he will deliver increased austerity. The war in Georgia shows that the post-9/11 era has now ended with a new cold war against Russia, inspired by Obama's guru Brzezinski.

As Tarpley points out, Obama has never won a real election contest; his way has always been smoothed by engineered scandals.

But this time the scandals are set to go the other way.

The Democrat National Committee has to be certified insane if they nominate Obama. There is no way he can beat "war hero" McCain with a ton of dirty laundry like this around his neck.

And even that pales beside the blamage, the loss of face for the Democrats if they nominate a candidate who is not even a US citizen, thus giving the election by default to the Republicans. That could be the final blow to what is left of the two-party system as we know it.



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From: MSN NicknameLonbear2Sent: 10/16/2008 1:14 PM
Vampy is correct.  Obama has a US citizen for a mother.  That makes him a citizen.  Like it or not.

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From: MSN Nicknamell4dixie08Sent: 10/16/2008 7:19 PM
If Barack Obama would apply for a job with the FBI or with
 the Secret Service, he would be disqualified because of his past
 association with William Ayers, a known terrorist. For this same reason, he would
 be disqualified from  joining the military.
 If he is elected President he would not qualify to be his
 own body guard!

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From: MSN NicknameCatdancing4u2Sent: 10/27/2008 11:40 PM
The man is not qualified for the reason he has NO experience. There are way too many dead ends concerning his past, his shady dealings, and where he is getting all this money from foreign countries to pad his political campaign? I never even heard of him until Oprah Winfrey introduced him on her show. And anyone she endorces has to be taken with a grain of salt.He is trouble from the git go and if he becomes this country's next president God Help Us All.

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From: MSN NicknameVA_ConfederateSent: 10/28/2008 5:33 PM
Obama may have a mother who is a citizen, but he is not who he claims to be, nor was he poor growing up, nor is he honest on most of his other claims along the campaign trail.
 
I have to find that sheet of facts that the black radio personality in LA sent out. Very interesting facts on the great Illinois hope.
 

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From: MSN Nicknamell4dixie08Sent: 10/28/2008 5:38 PM
Our new national anthem;
 

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From: MSN NicknameLonbear2Sent: 10/28/2008 6:22 PM
I really wish people would quit using the phrase "not qualified".  The constitution spells out the qualifications to be president.  There are only two:  Be a natural born citizen and meet the age requirement.  The electorate collage determines everything else.  I would not be waiting for any god to help no matter who is elected.
 
My 2c rant of the day (maybe)
Lonster

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From: MSN NicknameJreb1861Sent: 10/28/2008 7:31 PM
"not qualified". 
 
.......he's not. About as much as me, but then I'm not black and I'm honest and up front. Jreb

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From: MSN NicknameLonbear2Sent: 10/28/2008 7:45 PM
Reb,
The constitution is the law of the land (supposedly).  If he meets the age and citizenship requirements, he is qualified to be president.  It does not mean he will be a good one.  If you meet the two requirements, then you qualify to be president Reb and you would have my vote.  I wanted to puke when I went to vote this time.  Remember the times that people start harping about term limits?  How would that affect the qualifications of future presidents if such laws were passed?  Race?  Damned right!  You can lay that blame squarely where it belongs, on our ancestors.
Take care
Lonster

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From: MSN NicknameJreb1861Sent: 10/28/2008 7:57 PM
"It's a'comin"
 
........you got that right LL and it ain't goin to be pretty. Its going to be the biggest mistake in the history of this country. Just look at the states and cities that have had blacks in charge. JMHO Jreb

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From: MSN NicknameJreb1861Sent: 10/28/2008 8:18 PM
"The constitution is the law of the land"
 
........I think our fore fathers thought we would be smart enough to think for ourselfs, not to be lead by a Hitler like idiot. Listen to Obama's speeches and think back to what Hitler said in the 30's, almost word for word the same. Promise the masses the moon, when theres not a star in the sky. The government is good, we'll take care of you. You don't have to work, we'll give you welfare. We'll make your house payments. We'll provide your health care. Makes me sick, worked all these years, paid my taxes and for what? Watch the government give it to a bunch, that haven't struck a lick at a snake.

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From: MSN NicknameLonbear2Sent: 10/28/2008 9:40 PM
Reb,
I am in no way defending obama, or mccain for that matter.  Everything you say about political speeches is true.  Those same speeches can be traced back to the Greek times and further back.  In politics, what works - works.  Right or wrong, like it or not.  If I had my way, never will, there would be qualifiers for voters.  I am sure you have studied your history and know how that went out the window.  Remember the analogy about how to tame wild hogs?  Feed them daily, gently remove the trouble makers, pen them in and do as you will.  I wish someone smarter than me would tell me why that will not keep working.  Teach your children well as they will be the ones to bear the sabre.
Its too early for us, I hope, to be running the world from those rockin' chairs.
regards
Lonster

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From: MSN Nicknamell4dixie08Sent: 10/29/2008 4:32 PM
Sorry to bother you Mr. Obama, Sir
 
Could you help me please find these missing records, sir?
 
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- not available, locked down by faculty
4. Harvard College records -- Not released, locked down by faculty
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- "not available"
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate - - Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13. Your Record of baptism-- Not released or "not available"
14. Your Illinois State Senate records--"not available"

 
You couldn't get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after 143 days of experience.
You couldn't become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience of being a surgeon.
You couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143 days of experience.
You couldn't join the military and become a colonel after 143 days of experience.
You couldn't get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news anchor after 143 days of experience.
 
BUT....
 
'From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in  the Senate. That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.  After
143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the  Free World .... 143 days.
We all have to start somewhere. The senate is a good start, but after 143 days, that's all it is - a  start.
AND, strangely, a large sector of the American public is okay with this and campaigning for him. We wouldn't accept this in our own line of work, yet some are okay with this for the President of the  United States of America? 

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From: MSN NicknameScooterguy8Sent: 10/29/2008 6:57 PM
Gee, if he is in fact a US citizen, what has he got to hide and run `way from. I live just north of detroit, and i`m amazed how people in my area are falling over themselves over this muslim puke.

There is 5 obama yardsigns on my block itself. I just dont get how people can be so delusional, as to fall for voting in a closet muslim. Just wait `till he gets sworn in on the koran. Yep, I see it..... anyone else.

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From: MSN Nicknamell4dixie08Sent: 10/29/2008 7:33 PM
Wait till he wants a new Constitution! It ought to be an interesting ride while the country falls.

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From: YakimaSent: 10/29/2008 10:59 PM
Chicago-ward politician, with alot of experience hanging signs on telephone polls and an illegal-loving war criminal that wants to bomb half the world back to the Stone Age.  I voted for Chuck Baldwin the other day.  I can now sleep with myself at night knowing I had nothing to do with putting these two thugs in office.

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