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From: MSN Nickname-JX  (Original Message)Sent: 12/30/2008 1:26 PM
Why not? It is no more stupid than this new tax in NY on non-diet food items. I hope all of you who went along, like trained seals, with the illegal taxing of tobacco products are proud of yourselves. With out your blind support to try an abolish a product that you do not like, you have opened the flood gates and given the government the power to over tax any product they feel like. Ask yourselves one question...what happened to all of the money that the illegal tax on tobacco products has produced since it's application?
 
From the NY Daily News....

State Health Commissioner Richard Daines has become the point man for one of the more controversial of Gov. David Paterson's revenue-generating budget proposals: The so-called "fat tax" - an 18 percent levy on sugary drinks like non-diet soda.

Daines, a Spitzer administration holdover who generally keeps a fairly low profile, has recorded a YouTube manifesto in defense of the tax, which the administration insists is really more about health care policy than making money off soda-drinking New Yorkers.

The point, according to Daines, is to disincentivize sugary drinks, which research shows are the top culprit in the childhood obesity epidemic, and encourage people to return to 1970s-era levels of consumption of other, less fattening beverages like milk and water.

The side benefits, according to Daines, include the fact that cutting down on soda saves money for consumers and whittling the state's collective waistline could save money for taxpayers in the form of fewer obesity-related health problems that need to be treated - particularly for Medicaid recipients.

The Daines video is intended to be a response to last week's Q poll that found voters oppose the fax tax 60-37 percent.

It's unlikely Hollywood will come calling for the commissioner soon. Daines, a mild-mannered Mormon, isn't the most scintillating of spokesmen, and the topic is a tough sell. But he gets his point across with the help of some well-placed props - including a big, yellow gelatinous mass that's supposed to represent six pounds of human fat. Yuck.

Some have suggested that the state is unfairly picking on the soda industry and asked why, if this is indeed a policy initiative, the governor doesn't push things to their logical conclusion by taxing everything that's fattening - from Twinkies to french fries - or perhaps even adopt Assemblyman Felix Ortiz's proposal of cutting to the chase and taxing overweight people themselves.

Daines' response was quite Spitzeresque: Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. The commissioner also insisted he is neither surprised nor daunted by the Q poll's findings nor deterred by the "nanny state" arguments about keeping government out of people's personal lives.

"Simply because you can't or don't want to do everything doesn't mean you can't do the first thing or the most important thing," Daines told me during a recent interview.


"If you take a fair-minded look at the literature, you will see that the first and most important to do is to go after these beverages. We paralyze ourselves if we say we have to do everything at once or do nothing."

"...The message here is moderation, not abstinence," the commissioner continued. "I've seen lives ruined and controlled by things like obesity and tobacco and other addictions. If you really want your life controlled by that, it's like having a dominatrix instead of a nanny.



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From: MSN NicknameSinned4337Sent: 12/31/2008 11:23 PM
Wll many people drink coffee and tea with sugar. So why aren't they included. It's just another example of New York hitting the average taxpayer to make up for their fiscal irresponsibility. Great thing to do during a recession, take away some of what little money people have.

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From: MSN NicknameMarty-GSent: 12/31/2008 11:28 PM
I think the gov is throwing darts in all directions to see if any of them stick.  I don't think he expects all of his tax proposals to go through.

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From: MSN Nickname-JXSent: 1/1/2009 12:03 AM
I think that this is just one more example of the government sticking it's nose into a private citizen's business. And this is only going to get worse over the next four years.

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From: MSN NicknameCrotonaPark40s-50sSent: 1/1/2009 5:33 PM
Taxes on general merchandise tend to hurt the poor more than other groups. If New York needs to raise revenues let them raise the income tax and skew the tax burden to people who can most afford it.

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