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From: MSN NicknameBronxBobby1  (Original Message)Sent: 1/1/2009 3:06 PM

Well, that didn't take long.

Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank hasn't quite broken with Barack Obama, but he criticized the president-elect - and in a way rarely heard from a left-wing Democrat.

Obama, complains Frank, "overestimates his ability to take people, particularly our colleagues on the right, and, sort of, charm them into being nice."

Now, what could have prompted Barney Frank to aim one of his celebrated verbal barbs at Obama?

The issue is the prez-to-be's invitation to evangelical pastor Rick Warren, a vocal opponent of same-sex marriage, to deliver the invocation at his inauguration.

But where some see in that invite a good-faith effort by Obama to reach out to a community whose members, by and large, did not support his candidacy, many gays - including Frank - discern deliberate insult.

They say they are "offended."

It's hard to see why.

During the campaign, Obama was totally unambiguous when it came to the question of same-sex marriage: He's against it, though he opposes efforts to ban it legally (like the recently passed proposition in California), and favors civil unions.

In fact, nearly two out of three Americans, according to a recent Newsweek poll, oppose same-sex marriage.

So why should Obama turn his back on someone who not only reflects his views, but also those of an overwhelming majority of Americans?

Part of the problem for Obama, of course, is that he's currently without a personal pastor, having deep-sixed his longtime spiritual advisor, Jeremiah Wright, during the campaign.

But the growing flap over Rick Warren suggests that if Obama has "overestimated" anything, it's not his ability to charm the right, but his capacity for keeping in check the legion of whiners on the left.



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From: frankgSent: 1/1/2009 5:14 PM
Darn, we should have elected a black and gay President. But Obama is only half black. Barney is probably more than half gay. Want to know more? Just Barney Google. I mean Google Barney.

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From: MSN NicknameMarty-GSent: 1/1/2009 10:10 PM
I mean Google Barney.
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I did that. . .and all I could find was a big purple dinosaur who owned a men's clothing store at 7th Avenue & 17th Street before he became a deputy sheriff in Mayberry. . .

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From: MSN NicknameSinned4337Sent: 1/2/2009 8:19 PM

"nearly two out of three Americans, according to a recent Newsweek poll, oppose same-sex marriage."

Where did this statistic actually come from?

Newsweek 12/08 poll on gay marriage by age:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/172404

18-34 Approve 51% Disapprove 40%

35-44  Approve 43% Disapprove 54%

45-64  Approve 38% Disapprove 58%

65+ Approve 22% Disapprove 69%


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