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CARTRIDGES : Wilcatting the .284 Winchester
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From: MSN NicknamePeriscope_depth1  (Original Message)Sent: 16/11/2004 03:04
The .284 Win is a high volume case that is short, fat and should be the most perfect starting point for a wide variety of wildcats.
 
Strangely enough....I have not read one article about this idea. 
 
Can you imagine the possibilities?  When the case is expanded to .308 caliber....you essentially have a cartridge that can fit in a short action magazine with slightly more power than a 30/06. 
 
Neck it up to a .338.....you have a round approaching the power of a .300 Short Magnum.  A .35-284 would make the 35 Whelen Improved jealous without the headspace problems and the .378-284 would be a stump puller capable of stopping the brown bears of Alaska and thin-skinned dangerous game of Africa.
 
Has any of the major gun writers taken the time to build wildcats based on these calibers I just described?  Anyone done any serious load testing with these wildcats I just described??
 
No?
 
WHY NOT???
 
Anyone on this board own a wildcat based on the .284?  Anyone like to see these wildcats developed?  Thoughts??


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From: MSN NicknameAimiableRoosterSent: 08/01/2005 01:11
I think the 6.5 - 284 is one of the better wildcats based on the 284 Winchester cartridge. If I recall, its so popular that Hornady actually sells brass stamped and sized for 6.5-284. Check their site out. I've read that it is very impressive in competition shoots.

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From: MSN NicknameToomuch_36Sent: 26/03/2005 15:31
I am not that much involved in wildcatting, though your thoughts are very intrigueing. My concern though is this, why did the .284 Winchester fall out of favor in the first place. As a 7mm. round the .284 Winchester has the, current rage, 7mm.08 beat hands down any way you want to look at it. My guess is that people just have not gotten used to the rebated rim concept.  

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From: MooslyManSent: 09/08/2005 03:20
I know this is an old discussion, but one
that I`ve had the pleasure of understanding
just how ahead of it`s time the 284 Win was!
My first encounter was in 1967, when an old
Rancher friend introduced me to a 6mm/284!
A wildcat in all respects which was a lot of
fun! Now like the 264 Mag, it got a lot of bad
press from the writters as to be over bore and
did not really give a great deal of advantage! I
can only say, if we had the powder then that
we have now, that would be a non story! But
in our mauser action and 26" Douglas Barrel
we were making very good groups in all bullet
weights! It was a very popular chambering, as
well as the 25/284! The problem was it was a
pain makeing case`s and fire forming them! It
can be a tough case to neck down! The best
was the 338/284, a hard hitter for any short
action rifle! It has a wider case than the 06, so
it had enough shoulder to neck it up to 35 and
375 with no problem! Today the real serious
1000 yard shooters nearly to a man are shooting
the 6.5/284, it is a work horse and one of the
best wild cats on the 284 case! So accurate is
this round with long 142 grain match bullets for
long range shooting is amazing! sub 4" groups!
has prompted Norma to offer factory brass! It
has finally after all these years proving what we
knew a long time ago, the 284 is a wonderful
case design! Not enough folks know or have
tried it! The standard 284 is a fine round for a
feller that just wants some thing different! It`ll
give the same performance as the 280 Rem, an
in a short case thats not to shabby!
                                               Moosly

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From: MooslyManSent: 09/08/2005 04:16
I thought I`d show how the standard 284
Win matches up with the 7mm/08 and the
280 Rem and the 7MM Rem Mag!
 
             7mm/08    280      284      7mag
140 gr
fps         2807       3010     2957     3166
 
150 gr    
fps         2787       2930     2940     3130
 
160 gr   
fps         2675       2795     2885     3075
 
this shows that the 284 win was before it`s
time and why some cartridges gain popularity
and others fade away has always been one
thing that has left me scratching my head!
                                               Moosly
 

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From: MSN NicknameonlysoterionSent: 02/02/2007 17:54
I once had the pleasure to meet Brian Pearce, and this subject about the .284 came up. Brian was of the opinion that the .284 did not get it's due because of the vehicles Winchester chose to release it in . Namely the Model 88 lever action rifle. however there were many bolt rifles made by custom gunsmiths in this chambering.
  I once worked with a fellow that had built for himself a .25-284 for antelope hunting. He had built this when he was 15,i met him when he was 23.
  Respectfully, Lance

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From: MSN NicknamedoghogNeSent: 11/02/2007 19:47
  Yes i have built two 25-284  and i love the wildcat! I'm shooting a 75 gr v-max around 4100fps! Very accurate and very easy to load for

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From: grumpySent: 08/04/2007 14:16
I have seen wildcats on the 284 from 22 caliber to 45 caliber. The ones that always interested me was the 375 and 411. With the new 338 Federal being so popular, it amazes me that the 338/284 wildcat hasn't gotten more responses.

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