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CARTRIDGES : Looking at the 257 Weatherby and 264 Win Mag
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From: MooslyMan  (Original Message)Sent: 14/08/2005 19:18
I guess everyone has to give credit to Roy Weatherby as
the gunmaker that understood that high bullet speed had
it`s advantages!One of his Favorites was the 257 mag, He
took game from all over the world with it! A Polar Bear
with a 115 grain nosler, That proved his point to many who
followed his mode of thinking! My first meeting with one of
Mr. Roys products was a 300 Weatherby that a man my dad
new came out to the country to hunt deer with us! I could
not keep my eyes off the bright blue barreled action and the
pretty wood grains that seemed to dance on the stock!
After the man missed everything he shot at, my Dad thought
we should check the scope! and he said I was good at doing
that so I was the kid that drew the short straw! Right at first
it felt good as I snuggled into the rifle, made my ole rifle feel
like a fence post! All was fine until I sweezed the trigger!
Everything went black, and when I did get my sense back
blood was running down my eye! my cheek felt like I had
hit by a mule! Since I was 13 years old it was child abuse!
I felt better when the men checked the target and It was
right on line 2'' high! One of the reasons I felt the 257 mag
was abetter round for me! a lot less pain! And one reason I
was attracted to the 264 win mag!
 
 
257 Weatherby   100 grain  =  3550 fps
                              120 grain  =  3250 fps
 
264 Win Mag      100 grain  =  3680 fps
                              120 grain  =  3400 fps
 
 
I guess if Mr. Roy Weatherby had faith in his 257 Weatherby,
I should have the same in the 264 Win Mag, Other than .007
difference in bullet diameter! they are very simular!


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Recommend  Message 2 of 6 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamemefishmeSent: 22/09/2005 13:18
A buddy of mine has a 264 that he uses for deer and moose here in Maine....

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From: rodsterSent: 28/09/2005 11:40
   Moosly,
Welcome to the "half moon club".
The 264 Win mag made me a member.It only bit me at the bench,never in the field.But the older I get , the more I like conventional cartridges.The magnums have there place , but for 90% of my use they are overkill.

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From: MSN NicknameGotWeatherby1Sent: 28/09/2005 15:24
That story about the .300 Wby mag strikes at home!  My grandfather has a 300 Wby mag he purchased back in 1971.  He bought it to go elk hunting and put a scope ( dont remember the brand ) on it that had maybe a 1 inch eye relief on it.  Anyways my dad would always take guys from high school he wasnt very fond of and let them shoot it prone.  That made them really lean down the old Monte Carlo style stock.  Before they pulled the trigger they would always brag on how big of a caliber they had shot in the past and how this would be a piece of cake.  After the round was sent down range the shooter would look up with a surprised look on his face with a nice bloody ring around his eye.  The gun was then nick-named "stitches."  My other granfather, who was even a competitive bench rest shooter for years, came up from the gun with the dreaded ring around his eye.  Good times.  I had the opportunity to shoot with the US Army snipers at Ft. Hood.   We shot the XM 107.  The Barrett model 82A1.  For those of you who dont know this gun, its a 10 shot semi-automatic .50 BMG.  That is a very large caliber capable of puncturing a tank at 2000 yards with the right round.  Anyways, it in my opinion, kicks less than a 300 Wby with out a muzzle brake.  Sure the noise is 5 times that of the Wby, but the recoil is just not as punishing of that of the 300 Wby. 

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From: MSN NicknameAimiableRoosterSent: 05/10/2005 02:12
I'm a fan of 264 calliber bullets but I still think the 264 magnum can be overkill for deer. It seems these days that people are inclined to use a canon to hunt deer. It just isn't necessary. I personally use a 6.5 x 55 SE and it is a very nice cartridge for deer. I imagine the 264 magnum would be well suited to elk and moose. I can't imagine loading it for 85grain varmint round though! Another nice cartridge is the 260 Remington. Anyhow, enjoy your 264 magnum.

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From: MooslyManSent: 05/10/2005 16:45
I guess one of the nice thing about having so many
choices in life is the idea that you can like what you
like and visa versa! Like the 6.5x55, think the 6.5-
284 is wonderful, it is a shame no major co. thinks
like I do. My Grand pa thought his old 25/35 was
all I should ever need for hunting deer, and my old
uncle was fond of his 250/3000 and I tried both as
a youngster, but found them lacking in my thinking!
up close they worked fine, spent all night once trying
find a buck  I shot across a grain feild with a 250
and since he was the biggest buck I had ever seen
something about him traveling nearly a mile into a
creek on to private property would have got my
mouth washed out if my Mom was nearby. I noticed
where I grew up in central Texas the country had
huge flats and nice size hills for Texas, often on the
over looks you could see deer moving into the draws
several hundred yards, my favorite spot gave a
good 800 yrds of view, deer moving late in the
evening made stalking into the dark creeks to meet
that deer into 25/35 range was like trying to wizz
out the back of a moving truck! The 264 made my
hunts a lot more fun and successful, I knew I could
make that tough shot and I never had to chase one
all over Texas with it! It had a special purpose and
use for me! Now if I was setting in a tree stand and
100 yards was a long shot even if I lied about the
distance that most folks tend to do, that 6.5x55
would be the ticket, but I bet my grand Pa would
say that is over kill for deer, his 25/35 or 38/40 was
all a man needed to kill deer!!!
                                                      Moos
 

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