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SELECTED HANDLOADS:

25-06:

I HAVE 2- 25/06'S AWINCHESTER MODEL 70 AND A PARKER HALE 1200

START LOW AND WORK UP. THESE LOADS COULD BE A LITTLT HOT IN AWARM CLIMATE.

AA2700 53GRS. 100GR NOSLER SOLID BASE BALISTIC TIP 9!/2 REMINGTON PRIMER O/LNGTH. 3.15

VELOSITY 3300F/S. 5 SHOT@ 100YDS =UNDER 1/2" MOD. 70 WIN. 24" BARELL

NOTE : 54 GRS. SHOWED EXCESSIVE PRESSURE.

H 414 51GRS. 87GR. SPEER SPIRE POINT 9 1/2REM. PRIMERS O/L 3.096

VELOSITY 3470F/S 5SHOT@100YDS = UNDER 1" PARKER

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25-06:

I have a Remington Sendero in 25-06. This is the best shooting load I have worked up so far. It's far from hot, but produces astounding accuracy. You might want to work up something similar.
Case: Remington
Bullet: Hornady 100 gr. spire point (moly coated)
Powder: RL22
Charge: 56.5 gr.
Primer: Fed 210
O.A.L.: 3,120 in.
This load chronographs just under 3200 fps in my rifle, and consistently produces .5 in. groups @ 100 yds. I have shot several groups with three holes touching at 100 yds. with this load. Hope this is of some help to you.
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22-250

WEATHER: SUNNY - HOT & HUMID - NO WIND

FIREARM: REMINGTON 700 BDL - VARMINT SPECIAL

BARREL LENGTH: 24" TWIST: 1-14"

SCOPE: 36X LEOPOLD CASE: WW SUPER

BULLET: SIERRA 52 GR. BTHP SIZING: NECK

CASE LENGTH: 1.902 OAL: 2.426 CALIBER: 22-250

PRIMER: CCI-BR2 POWDER: H-414 CHARGE: 42.0

FPS: 3840 FPE: 1703

BD: .224 SD: .148 BC: .254 CASE EXPAN: NOR

RESULTS: 5 SHOT GROUP @100 YARDS = .246"

NOTES: BULLETS AND CASES ARE WEIGHTED AND MATCHED. FLASH HOLES AND PRIMER POCKETS REAMED. POWDER DROPS MEASURED, AND HAND DIES USED. PRIMER SEATING WAS GAUGED BY METER.

USE CAUTION - START LOW AND WORK UP TO THIS LOAD. WATCH CASES FOR PRESSURE SIGNS.

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30 REM:

Regarding info for 30 Rem. dug this up from Lyman 45th. loading manual.(NOTE) grove diameters may vary from,306 to 308 dia.) so start at lowest sug. load and work up CAREFULLY. 150 Gr.Jacketed Imr. 3031 30.grs.33 grs. MAX. Imr. 4895 30 grs. 33 grs. Max Imr.4320 29 grs. 32 grs Max. 170 gr. Jacketed Imr. 3031 27grs. 30 grs. Max.Imr. 4895 30grs. 33grs. Max. this is a COMPRESSED charge.Imr. 4320 29grs.Max.31.7...Hope this helps.45/70 more info you can reach me at glinck@airdial.net

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357 MAGNUM:

WEATHER: SUNNY AND WARM - NO WIND

FIREARM: COLT PYTHON HUNTER

BARREL LENGTH: 8"

BULLET: SIERRA 158 GR. JHC

POWDER: W296 LOAD: 17.5 GRS.

PRIMER: FED. 100 CASE: FEDERAL

FPS: 1405 FPE: N/A

RANGE: 5 SHOTS @ 50 YARDS

RESULTS: 1.38" GROUP

NOTE: ALL LOAD DATA SHOULD BE USED WITH CAUTION. ALWAYS START WITH A REDUCED LOAD AND WORK UP TO THE LOAD LISTED.

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41 MAGNUM:

WEATHER: SUNNY AND HOT - HUMID

FIREARM: RUGER BLACKHAWK

BARREL LENGTH: 6.5"

BULLET: SIERRA 170 GR. JHC

POWDER: W296 LOAD: 23.0 GRS.

PRIMER: CCI-300 CASE: FEDERAL

FPS: 1345 FPE: N/A

RANGE: 5 SHOTS @ 50 YARDS

RESULTS: 1.78" GROUP

NOTE: ALL LOAD DATA SHOULD BE USED WITH CAUTION. ALWAYS START WITH A REDUCED LOAD AND WORK UP TO THE LOAD LISTED.

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41 MAGNUM:

.41Mag, now there is something I can contribute loads for. With that cartridge not being one of the more successful commercial sales leaders, it is occaisionally hard to find ammo for and when found, usually will be a couple of boxes of Winchester 175gr Silvertips, a fine load out of most guns, or the hotter 210 JHP which has alot of blast and recoil in the Winchester, Federal and PMC loadings I have tried. I think that Remington still loads the 170gr wadcutter (what originally was the police loading) in a lower velocity load, but I have not seen a box of them in quite some time. Recently I found a 50 round box of Winchester Super X 200gr Semi Wadcutter loads at an old sporting goods store and grabbed them. That was Winchester's police loading, and is very accurate out of a shorter barreled revolver. The loading of the 41 Mag to the level of a "41 Special" is a good way to go as a handloader. I have not gone as far as trimming down cases to the same length as a 44 special case, but have heard of it being done. Hank Williams Jr. has built some single actions specifically chambered for the "41 special" I would love to try one of them sometime. I have had good luck loading 220gr cast bullets over 7.5gr of Unique, which will give about 950fps out of a Ruger Blackhawk. I also have loaded the 215 or 220gr cast bullets over 15.5gr of IMR4227, for about the same velocity. My good friend has a S&W mod 57 with the 8 3/8 barrel with an Aimpoint on it, that gun will shoot a Sierra FMJTC 220gr Silhouette bullet through the same hole at 65yds with a powder load of 20.5gr of IMR 4227. This is a full power load and does generate alot of recoil. The real barnburners for the 41 mag are the Hogden H110 loadings. It is possible to generate velocities over 1500fps with a 170gr JHP Sierra bullet over 20gr of H110. I have actually loaded that load as stout as 22.5gr of H110, it makes about 1650fps out of a 6" Ruger, but there is alot of muzzle flash and der earsplittenloudenboomer. The barrel twist in the typical 41 mag handgun prevents heavier bullet accuracy, however the new Federal CastCore 250gr load does shoot fairly well out of my 4 5/8 barrel Ruger Blackhawk/Bisley framed gun. The new Freedom Arms single action and the Dan Wesson 414 super mag have a better twist rate and will shoot the 275 grain SSK hardcast fairly well. The SSK bullet loaded over 17.5gr of IMR 4227 will make 1200fps. I have loaded that bullet and shot it at slower velocities in the short barrel Ruger, actually running it at only 900fps, and got decent accuracy. For a cowboy load I recommend the 200 or 215 gr cast bullets like the ones that Bull X sells and using Unique or the Winchester 630 or my favorite the IMR 4227. I have never been able to buy one of the limited run of Marlin 1894 lever carbines in 41 mag, but maybe someday one will drop into my lap. I would hope that it would shoot the 275gr bullets good, which would make it a good bear and hog gun. CorBon loads a 265gr bullet in a high velocity 41 mag load, from the velocity I have seen advertised for it I would assume that H110 or Accurate #9 is the powder they used, but I have never found a box of them to try out. I think the all time most accurate loading I have used was the 210 gr Sierra or Hornady JHP loaded with 20.5gr of IMR 4227, it is a full power load and will make 1200fps out of the 4 5/8 barreled Ruger Bisley I own. The IMR 4227 fills the case up completely and the muzzle flash is not bad and recoil is manageable with that load. This load is a great deer hunting load, although I have seen the factory 175gr Winchester Silvertip do a very good job of anchoring a running whittail before.

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30-06:

Weather: Sunny, hot and humid - no wind

Firearm: Springfield, Custom Barrel(1.250" at the muzzle)

Trigger: custom Scope: Tasco 36X

Barrel Length: 22.5"

Powder: IMR-4064 Charge: 48.0 Grains

Bullet: Sierra 168 gr. BTHP Primer: CCI-BR2

Case: FC OAL: 3.323 Sizing: Neck Case length: 2.484

FPS: 2731 FPE: 2560 Bullet Dia: .308 Caliber: 30-06

Sectional Density: .253 BC: .475 Case Expansion: Nor.

Results: 5 shot group at 100 yds. = .254"

Notes: All cases are matched cases with primer pocket and flash hole reamed. All dropped charges were measured. The primer seating was measured with a gauge, and hand dies were used in the preparation of the cases and seating the bullet.

Good luck and practice safety when handloading.

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30_06:

Weather: Sunny, warm, and no wind

Firearm: Remington 700 BDL

Scope: Leupold Vari X III (40mm)

Bullet Type: SP Pro Hunter Bullet Wt. 150 grain, Sierra #2130

Sectional Density: .226 Bullet Cofficent: .394, Dia. 308

Powder: IMR 4350, Powder Wt. 59.3 grains, FPS: 2950

Primer: CCI BR-2 Large Rifle Bench Rest, Case: Win.

Sizing: Full Length, OCL: 3.230

Same hole accuary @ 100 yds., Three shot group.

Make sure all cases measure within the maxium case length, the user a of a powder trickler is great to assure you get the correct charge of propellent. Check your Rifle's chamber for the correct OCL, (CHAMBER INTERNAL DIMENSIONS MAY NOT BE THE SAME FROM RIFLE TO ANOTHER RIFLE EVEN BY THE SAME MANAFACTURE.) Next time I'll give the Pet Load for my Remington 7400 Automatic (3006)

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30-06:

I have had good results using 48 gr of IMR 4064 and the Hornady 165 gr BTSP, the 168 gr Match and the equivalent Sierra bullets in my Garand. I started out with 46.5 gr of IMR 4064 and worked up to the 48 gr load. The ejected shell casings all land at 2 o'clock about 3 or 4 feet from the gun and the groups are tight. Ejected shell landing consistancy and tight groups usually go hand in hand on a properly functioning Garand. The IMR 4064 is one of the safest powders you can use in a 30-06 as a good loading usually completely fills the cartridge case, giving great powder density and leaving enough space to seat the bullet without compressing the load. When my dad was teaching me to reload I was allowed to use the IMR 4064 powder since accidental overcharges were unlikely. In like fashion I use IMR 4227 for 41 Magnum handgun loads because it is not likely that an overloaded cartridge will result and I get good consistant velocities in my Ruger Blackhawk/Bisley conversion. Nice load data presentation guys, sometimes we get so busy talking gun politics here that we forget to do tech and reload info which is what we all really enjoy the most about this site.

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