so i see a fourth temptation.we also see a fifth on the cross.

 

jerry,

 

Those are temptations from the flesh, they didn't meant Jesus had to lose his faith in the father, they meant he was afraid of the task. You should know, it comes to most soldiers before a risky combat and it doesn't mean that they would join the enemy. They cannot be compare to the tempter's offering of unlawful power and glory over his fellow brothers and sisters.

And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

 

cath,

 

Do you know of any power on earth that do not reign without the fear of death that is maintain by their armed forces. May it be army, police or executioner?

 

What is the death penality for? Execpt to maintain people lifetime subject to bondage into a political system.

 

That why many believed, in Jesus time, that the messiah would bring them deliverance from the bondage of the Roman Empire. But it was not our body's bondage Jesus came to free us of. It was our spirit's bondage to men's rules.

geek, yes they were temptations of the flesh, including the temptation you cited in your lead post, and all still are temptations of the flesh right here, right now.

 

let us view jesus as a god that took human form, why take that form, why not employ the format used for abraham, issac, and jacob.  why not use the form shown to moses, and the prophets of old?  in my mind, i see the human form used for relation, as a why for those not of the priesthood to understand  i am the way and the light, suffer the little children to come unto me, not just words written, and directed, but the words coming alive, speaking, and walking, and teaching.  MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD, stated before pilate, again, i am in this world but not of it.  so what do we see, the absolute proof that the spirit is willing , yet the flesh contains weakness.  that weakness is clearly demonstrated by his own temptations.

 

yet he goes where few have tread, he gives up being in the world at the hand of those of it, to  DEMONSTRATE THE DIFFERENCE THEREIN.

 

does this make him god to me, no it does not, but if ever there was irrefutable proof that god is, it was the life and loss of the life of yeshua bar yosef.  i take me solace and joy in that, i owe this man more than i ever could possibly pay back.  jerry