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Old Geek's : Framing the issues:How conservatives use language to dominate politics/Old Geek
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De : <NOBR>Surnom MSNCatherine-----------</NOBR> Envoyé : 2003-11-10 04:42

Here by far is the best piece on verbal manipulation aka mind control techniques:

Dad, interesting stuff all this manipulation or mind control in politics. As Geek pointed out, what the general public really would like is fairness for all, is this possible in our world? The rich, the superrich and/or the bullies have always existed in our world and as such I see no way that this will change, unless there is a change of heart in the public as a whole?

Geek, on the whole the general public appreciates the things that are fair, I agree with you on that. Gross injustice most of us recognize, but what about the rest?

Are most of us not open to manipulation, unless we are aware of it’s subtleness? How can we be aware if we have nothing and/or no standard to measure things on? For example, how much has changed in the last 50 years, much for the better, I agree..The media has opened up a whole new world for us. This has brought positive benefits, on the other hand....

If we continue not to recognize the cause of the bad things we see around us, we shall continue to create the bullies we don’t want, at the end of the day, our children are the leaders of tomorrow...does this make sense?

One danger I see when looking at the world as a whole and this is the shaping up of other superpowers like Asia and Europe...many would say that this is a good counter balance for the US and If fairness and goodwill rule then I would agree...


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De : <NOBR>Surnom MSNCatherine-----------</NOBR> Envoyé : 2003-11-11 04:27

Catherine, mind control technigues are ancient. Fear by far was the most effective method of control. Like, have you ever seen a dad holdup his back-of-hand to a child as a threat. Sure, and, its effective.

I agree nickname-c.

The religionists doe it all the time. Either do what I say or go to hell, or get kicked out of church, or get ostracized, etc. Not belonging to group is an insidious fear of which people take advantage.

Yes, most churches demand baptism at birth, which leaves the child no choice wether he wants to belong to a club or not... in my view religion isn't something that should be decided for the child.

Even 100 years ago, there were ads to professionals like doctors, lawyers, politicians, etc. on how to hypnotize people. You might think that this outdated preoccupation. The desire to hypnotize people is as great today as several hundred years ago. Well, it depends on how you use it. One doctor would talk to his wife while she was asleep. Another guy used the same technigue to help his child overcome a physical defect.

TV has made it easy for people to be hypnotised et mass in our day and age. This doesn’t mean TV isn’t or cannot be used for positive purposes.

As you are probably aware, advertisers basically use repetition. They just repeat the product name several times in an ad, til the person remembers it on a subconsious level... unless you are aware of the technique.

They want to sell their products, so it is well packaged, often using sex or pretty pictures to stimulate.

Personally, I think its an interesting subject. But, there are politicians and advertisers who "profile" people using this knowledge. Its basically come down to buzzwords repeated over and over again. They already know how certain folks "profiles" will react to those words. Politicians use to make long speeches, serious speeches. No longer. Now, its just series of buzzwords and claps.

Well, it seems that we are sold an image rather then a substance...