"I left there feeling I had been run through the gamut. He was very pointed in his questions. Then toward the end, he smiled and said he wanted to help me and wanted to do a fund-raiser."

That first reception for Dunbar netted about $3,000.

Nowhere does the official record reflect this work. And lawmakers generally are reluctant to reveal which lobbyists helped with their campaigns.

Case in point: Senate President Randall Gnant.

Gnant, a Scottsdale Republican, said in an interview that lawmakers should have to disclose who sits on their campaign fund-raising committees. But when asked who sat on his, he said he'd have to check at home.

Dad, interesting stuff all this manipulation or mind control in politics. As Geek pointed out, what the general public really would like is fairness for all, is this possible in our world? The rich, the superrich and/or the bullies have always existed in our world and as such I see no way that this will change, unless there is a change of heart in the public as a whole?

Geek, on the whole the general public appreciates the things that are fair, I agree with you on that. Gross injustice most of us recognize, but what about the rest?

Are most of us not open to manipulation, unless we are aware of it’s subtleness? How can we be aware if we have nothing and/or no standard to measure things on? For example, how much has changed in the last 50 years, much for the better, I agree..The media has opened up a whole new world for us. This has brought positive benefits, on the other hand....

If we continue not to recognize the cause of the bad things we see around us, we shall continue to create the bullies we don’t want, at the end of the day, our children are the leaders of tomorrow...does this make sense?

One danger I see when looking at the world as a whole and this is the shaping up of other superpowers like Asia and Europe...many would say that this is a good counter balance for the US and If fairness and goodwill rule then I would agree...

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