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Waterfowl Etc. : How much to feed?
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From: MSN NicknameAllison-Lachlan  (Original Message)Sent: 4/11/2004 2:00 PM
I have 2 muscovies and an appleyard and I'm not sure if I'm feeding them enough. I know it sounds like a silly question and they are heathly . But when I pick then up I can feel the breast bone a lot. Are they too thin? I give them duck pellets and lots of fresh vegetables, however they have become fussy and only eat their favourites. Are there any foods which they really shouldnt have? They are pets and free range in my suburban yard, so they tend to get spoilt.  Does anyone have any advice?
 
Thanks
Allison
(Australia)


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From: MSN NicknameOleMamaGozSent: 4/11/2004 7:05 PM
Allison,
It sounds like your feeding your ducks really well... I feed scraps and things all the time in addition to my grain... Corn..or chops will add fat to your birds if they are too thin...the only thing is I've always been told that straight corn is like us ..builds up too much fat around the heart if it is the ONLY diet that they have... You might try giving them some grains along with the pellets..I know that they say the pellets have more then enough or a balanced diet ..my birds tho...always preferred regular grain..and I had a hard time to get them to eat the pellets...Also, with the feeling of the breast bone.. with chickens, or turkeys and even peacocks..I always took that as a sign of needing to be wormed.. Poultry that is on a balanced dieat like your's are really should not be too thin around the breast bone... (a sign of worms to me) I know that some folks DO worm their ducks and geese, I have never had to...but I have heard of it.. You might think about worming them...I've never raised the muscovy myself..there is a article here on them in the ducks section...HERE
It might have some suggestions that I can't think of right now...I'll look in my health handbook and see what else I can come up with..and a friend of mine is raising them, I'll give her a holler and see about this from her....If we don't know for sure honey we will check around...I hope some of my suggestions will help... I'm sure that others might have some better or even differant ones...
I hope your having a fine holiday...and Hope to hear more from you soon.
Tootles for now,
Mama Gozzard

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From: MSN NicknameAllison-LachlanSent: 4/12/2004 2:19 PM
Thanks so much for your reply, Mama Gozzard. My ducks love corn, I buy frozen corn for them and defrost it and give them some daily. They run across the yard when they see me with it!  They also love pasta and meat, however I wasnt sure about feeding them meat, so I limit it. I do buy them tinned tuna in springwater every so often.
I have 4 kids so we dont usually have a lot of leftovers, so I have just gotten in the habit of buying them things each week. I want to get them things that arent going to harm them in  the long term. I do add wheat into their diet and they like that. But if I leave them only with pellets and wheat they stand at the window and look at me like they are starving. They have been hand raised from eggs, so they are very imprinted. I never had any ducks prior to getting these ones and I couldnt live without them, they certainly capture your heart. No wonder your group is so sucessful.
Im not sure about worming them, I was told I didnt have to. They share the yard with 2 dogs as well. I'd like to worm them just for peace of mind, but I dont know whats best.
Thanks again for the reply.
 
Allison

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From: MSN NicknameOleMamaGozSent: 4/12/2004 2:41 PM
Allison,
I was thinking about the worming thing...and I have been looking thru some old posts, been trying to find the one that a member had wormed their ducks.. I know that it did not hurt them and they did better afterwards, but I fear it was in some of the older posts that I deleted ...(I delete things over a year old, I've been told it helps keep the sites running smoother) If you get the liquid wormer Piperazine, and go right by the instructions on it for worming ...as far as by weight and so on...I'm sure that it can't hurt them...it's when we mix it too strongly or give them too much that hurt... Also, you might give them a look and make sure that no sort of lice or mites have gotten on the ducks.. Normally, again ducks and geese do not have these problems.. but I have had to get rid of some red mites that had gotten on my birds one year and even some of the ducks....(again just a suggestion honey)
Did you find anything in the muscovy article that was of any help for you?? Sure hope so...
I was unable to get ahold of my friend...but I will keep trying..I know that she has been working a load of overtime lately to make up for a vacation she wants to take..so I'll try again today..
Thanks for the kind remarks about the site dear.. I guess I've never looked at us as successful lately... we just try to help all we can, and love adding to our little internet family... It's nice to know that we can help some here and there...
Let me know how you go on this one..an I'll let you know what else I can come up with...
Hope to hear more from you really soon..
Mama

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From: MSN NicknameOleMamaGozSent: 4/12/2004 2:45 PM
Oh...I forgot... I was going to telll you that we also give our ducks, and all other birds here Bread and bread products... They love it and it would be a good subliment to their diet....
I just go to my local bread store..(most have a list of people willing to take what they call Old bread)
When they get too much of it and they have to get rid of what they have to pull .... they will call and see if you would like a tray all the way up to a rack high...a rack of bread which fills the back of my pick up..only costs me 3.00 !  And believe it or not there is so much of it that is good enough for us to eat it's unreal that it is simply almost given away... We always go thru it and put the good that we think we might eat or our friends might like and then we share that and keep it seperate...!
Anyway, just a thought ...Hope it helps..
Mama

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From: MSN NicknamethegoosesmotherSent: 4/15/2004 7:46 PM
I would add scratch (cracked grains) about half and half with the poultry pellets..you might switch to crumble as ducks sometimes like that better.  Ducks rarely get worms as they amount of water they drink flushes their systems out before anything takes hold, and there are several different kinds of worms.  If you think you might have this problem, please don't do anything until you have a lab test done to determine if and what kind they might have.  A little bread is a nice treat, but don't over do it as they will fill up on it and not get the vitamins and minerals they need from their regular food.
 
Nancy

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From: MSN NicknameAllison-LachlanSent: 4/16/2004 12:42 AM
I have heard to limit the amount of bread to give them. One duck in particular loves bread and will eat it all and no thing else. So I give them one piece a day.
 
I noticed yesterday that my youngest duck, given to me as a day old- mallard / appleyard cross, is being chased around by my muscovie drake. I think the mallard/ appleyard is a male as it has the curl in the tail feathers, Im hoping this wont cause any problems having 2 males living together. Both ducks have lovely natures but the newest duck hasnt been accepted, and he is fully grown now. They dont sleep in the same cage because the little one gets harrassed, during the day they rome around sometimes together. The female muscovie also peaks at the mallard cross if he comes near the food.
Any advise would be appreciated.
 
Allison
 

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From: MSN NicknamethegoosesmotherSent: 4/23/2004 5:02 PM
I would keep a sharp eye on the Muscovy drake.  They can get extremely aggressive.
 
Nancy

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From: MSN NicknameAllison-LachlanSent: 4/25/2004 2:15 PM
I tired putting the little one in the cage tonight, because he was sitting next to the door when I locked the muscovies up for the night. He again was pecked at by the muscovy drake, I left them for 5 minutes and hid to see what happened. He was chased around a few times so I let him out. I think all I can do is slowly put them together and watch them. I would never leave them unattended locked in, but eventually I would like them all to sleep together, because I only have one cage for them and at the moment I bring the little one inside in a crate every night.
 
Thanks
Allison

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