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Waterfowl Etc. : Red Mites
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From: MSN NicknameSassySadie72  (Original Message)Sent: 7/9/2007 8:29 AM
From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameOleMamaGoz</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 8/9/2001 8:13 AM
I have a question for anyone that has some extra information. I found some red mites the other day on some of my birds. So the first thing I did was add some Ivomec to their drinking water, and then I got the sprayer and started doctoring the effected birds. So now the question is it true that Red mites are carried by "wild birds" ? And what is the treatments that you have used to get these little pests to go away. In the birds I found these I have sprayed each birds and their housing and even the ground in the area that they graze. I thought all of that to be an aid. But I have also thought that Red Mites are the worst of the lot. Also I was thinking that with them you have to doctor again in 7 days. I checked the birds yesterday and the treated birds don't have a thing on them now but I'm not sure of the gestation period with mites. I simply can not figure out were these are coming from so that I might could do some prevention. Thanks for listening and any advise you can give me.. Tootles for now Mama


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From: TeeKay Sent: 8/10/2001 6:24 AM
Mama,
 
I have not hd personal experience with Red Mites yet, but I looked it up in "The Chicken Health Handbook".  They are the most common mites found in warm climates.  They are grey until they suck a chickens blood and turn red.  They can survive up to 6 months off chickens, so housing can be infested after chickens have been removed.  The mites feed at night, but during a heavy infestation they may stay on the bird during the day, very dangerous for chicks and setting hens.  "They can be controlled soley by cleaning up the birds' environment - no need to treat individual birds.  Clean facilities thoroughly and dust with a pesticide powder approved for poultry, with particular attention to cracks and crevices.  Repeat the dusting in 5 to 7 days." 
 
I hope that helps.  The book also says if they get really bad, they will get into the chickens mouth, and even attack humans! 
 
Tammie

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameOleMamaGoz</NOBR> Sent: 8/10/2001 10:23 AM
Tammie,
Wow Thanks for looking that up for me. Now I have a real delimma. The pen that the birds were in that had the mites has NO house. It is an open pen with lots of trees and stuff in it. I've already sprayed the birds, but do I treat the grass and everything like that? I don't know how to clean up a grass pen like that. Do you think that they could be in the pine needles that are under the trees? The birds lay under there allot. Now the other pen that I suspect them in is a camper hull I've already sprayed the birds, and the camper sides and the ground but now heavily. I will go back and spray it again and pay close attention to those areas. I wonder if maybe they are not mites like I think. Perhaps they are simply lice. Geeze I thought I had this pegged but now I need to do soemthing differant for sure. I lime the open area pens I wonder if a heavy lime job would help? I'm sorry to keep asking lots more questions just sort of talking trying to figure this thing out. Thanks so much for helping me.. Blessing's to you Mama

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From: Kate Sent: 8/12/2001 7:55 AM
Yes, Tami, the red mites are carried by wild birds, so no matter how often you spray insecticide around your pens you will get reinfestations.  We use the Ivomec pour-on once every three months with our birds, and never have any trouble with mites or lice.  Any pest that sucks the blood dies, and that breaks the breeding cycle, and by continuing with the Ivomec, even new arrivals will be killed as soon as they try to get a feed.  I feel that this way I have better control of the amount of insecticide around the property, and the birds get the correct dose to remain pest free and healthy.  Hope this helps.
 

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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameOleMamaGoz</NOBR> Sent: 8/12/2001 7:56 PM
Kate,
I did give the Ivomec also but sprayed the birds I thought were in the worst shape. Listen a while back you and I talked about giving the Ivomec in drinking water and I have it in the medical bag as 4cc. per gallon of drinking water. Does that sound about right to you. I know you have told me to doctor each bird but was hoping that giving it in the water will help me out a bit, when you talk about the amount of birds that we have here to hand treat, that runs into some time and energy. Also can you tell me when the birds get them and you give them the medication in their water, how long before you notice a change in them. I mean how long is before the bugs are gone? I'm not sure about how many times to treat and stuff like that..Would doctoring them bi monthly be enough? I know that I have to not set eggs for a period of time after giving them the medicine which is no problem in the winter but quite the consideration during the year. Sure could use your knowledge here, also I'm scared to death now that I won't be able to show now. The birds that I doctored with spray don't show any signs but if what you say is so, It won't be safe to show them since they will come back and I might not see it. Or with treatment they won't come back? Sorry to ask so many questions but I have not gotten to talk to you seems like I'm on and your not and vice versa. I sure hope that all is ok with your Da..and that you are taking care of yourself also.. I miss you dear friend.. Love and Blessing's Tami

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From: Kate Sent: 8/17/2001 7:59 AM
Tami, I do know of others who have used the Ivomec in drinking water, and they do say it works.  We haven't used it because the birds don't like the taste, and you have to withhold water for 24 hours before they will drink the medicated stuff.  With the hot conditions you've been having there, that's probably not a good idea.  I don't know the dosage rates, but I think it only has to be done every couple of months - I'll see what I can find out for you.  What I'd suggest is only use the pour-on on the birds you are going to show, and then keep them separate from the rest of your stock.  That should reduce the risk of any reinfestation, and the odd bug that tries it will die pretty fast!  Both forms of Ivomec will kill internal worms and any blood-sucking parasites, but it DOESN'T kill the Wing Feather Mites that feed only on the feathers!  Those ones are quite easy to spot, as a brown mark on the underside of the wing or tail feathers, close to the quill - a good quality flea powder will kill those.  Hope this helps.
 
 
P.S.  Been missing you heaps, too, sis - I'm back home for now, and I've snuck on here for a little playtime, but I've got heaps of catching up to do.  I'll try to catch up with you tomorrow if I can.


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