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From: MSN NicknameJennie6990  (Original Message)Sent: 9/13/2007 2:27 PM


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From: MSN NicknamesunnyboyreturnsSent: 9/14/2007 5:18 PM
What happened to greece.  It was doing so good and then blam the stone ages again
 
 
 
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From: bowleggedSent: 9/14/2007 5:24 PM
What happened to Greece? Blame it on the Romans.

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From: MSN NicknameLewWetzel1Sent: 9/14/2007 5:34 PM
Blame the Romans?  Put the blame exactly where it belongs, ON THE GREEKS.   Once they attained what they saw as the Apogee of Civilization they sloughed off anything that they found taxing/tiring/unpleasent.  So they stopped arming themselves and being prepared for War and the result was a group of hungry Italian farmboys kicked their ass and took all their stuff.  Let the Greeks whine about being unappreciated but don't blame the Romans for the Greek screw up.

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From: bowleggedSent: 9/14/2007 7:28 PM
You have a point Lew. If it wasn't the Romans, it would have been the Persians, or the Han, or the Hun, or the Goths, Franks, Picts, or the Take-Your-Picks. The Greeks got what they had coming because they stopped preparing for the worst, probably a lesson that every civilization should take note of. My point was that it just happened to be the Romans who came along and took advantage of the situation.

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 9/14/2007 8:36 PM
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"Si pacem vis, primus bellum parare"
"If you wish for peace, firstly prepare for war."
 
Big problem was they legalised queering. That of course meant nobody was promoted on merit, and state secrets were flogged to foreign b*mboys. They also coined the word Democrats. 

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From: MSN NicknameLewWetzel1Sent: 9/14/2007 11:28 PM
Bowlegged, you're right.  If the Romans hadn't come along then someone else would have.  When the Romans took Greece (including Macedonia) and brought back vast amounts of gold, silver, gems, artwork, and good looking slaves, it gave the Romans a taste for the good life and in a very real sense the death of the Roman Empire began then.

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From: YgraineSent: 9/15/2007 4:14 AM
Love the quote, Flash, but cannot remember  - who said it???  Was that one of Caesar's?
 
Love the beautiful pictures too on this site.

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 9/15/2007 1:11 PM
Flavius Vegetius Renatus, General and Consul, about 400 AD.
I remember it from Churchill,, but Google (dived in there for a crafty crib) tells me different.
Yet another skilled Catholic bon mot.   

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From: MSN NicknameLewWetzel1Sent: 9/15/2007 5:42 PM
Didn't Cicero also say something like that?

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 9/15/2007 6:25 PM
Look, Goldilocks. Google says Renatus. Do you think a good Roman Republican General would crib from a Democrat Greek loving pouffe like Cicero.?
 
Although Quandoque bonus Google dormet. (Cribbed that from Flash for Freedom.
From time to time even Google gets it wrong)

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From: MSN NicknameLewWetzel1Sent: 9/15/2007 8:00 PM
Well, if Renatus said it in AD400 Cicero would have been dead +400 years, so the idea of Renatus taking something from the long dead orator leads one into the realm of necromancy.   Lets not go there, as who knows just what Repete does to get through the winters.

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 9/15/2007 9:03 PM
Lew
I was impressed by your sensitivity in withdrawing a post containing some slightly uneffeminate (and richly deserved) language to a contributor.
 
But this cannot hold true for Repetes. His shocking penchants have led to his rechristening as More Repetes and he is working hard for his Most Repetes appelation. He still believes Herpes are musical instruments beloved of the Greek Gods, and this indeed is his Winter activity. Long live the Elysian fields.
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameLewWetzel1Sent: 9/16/2007 1:10 PM

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From: MSN NicknameOwlatnight8880Sent: 9/22/2007 5:28 AM
Dorian Invasion I hear.

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