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300 years ago, the union between England and Scotland was formed. These snippets from the Scotsman. Jimbert Welcome to England: a land where Union means rugby, strikes and marriage AS YOU travel out though the suburbs of north-west London towards the new Wembley stadium, it is the cross of St George you see on the railings by the Metropolitan line, not the Union flag. Many of these emblems are tattered and stained, suggesting they have been there since the summer of 2006; that mad, distant season in which England allowed itself to dream, and only in that dream was the World Cup won. It may seem flippant to approach a question of politics with reference to football, but the symbolism is important. Thirty years ago, English fans would have been flying the Union flag, unaware that it was the emblem of the United Kingdom. This would have been an honest representation of political reality. In London and the shires, England was Britain, and Britain was England. The banishment of this view is one of the most obvious successes of Scottish nationalism. Now, the stakes are higher, and it isn't just a question of sport. The 300th anniversary of the Act of Union coincides with the elections to the Holyrood parliament. The opinion polls suggest that there is a chance of the nationalists being in a position to lead an administration, taking Scotland significantly closer to a referendum on independence. O'Hagan argues that England will ignore the anniversary because "to mark it properly would be to speak up for the goodness of their marriage with the Scots, and England isn't feeling too good in that marriage at the moment. It might not want a divorce, but it can't quite sleep at night for the slow workings of resentment. We've been here before - in the late 18th century the cry of 'No Scots!' was often to be heard, apparently, from the pit at Drury Lane - and it is brought on now by a perception that the Scots are running Britain, and doing rather better out of the arrangement than is England. This is an old-fashioned resentment and will go away eventually, unless something seismic happens, like Scotland breaking away. For the moment it means that the anniversary of the Act of Union will probably be met with a bit of a groan by England." |
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Why? GB is a constitutional monarchy and not part of England. It is
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I see what you all r saying, however, I still wish it could all be put behind people and they move on. What a lot of ancestors did, doesn't really have anything to do with how we could get along together now....We were not here then, none of us were the instigators of the past indignations that were put on our ancestors. I just can't get past it all sometimes. Being mixed, I could be angry at all the ancestors progeny for what they did but, it was in the past, it is now that matters isn't it? |
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THEY ARE LEAVING OUT RELIGIOUS INDIFFERENCES, FISH. |
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Yes a lot of scots hate England and the English. This stems from an inferiority complex and also a state of mind past on from one generation to the next. If the scots want independence from England, they have only to vote SNP in vast numbers ......but strangely, they don't. If they did Scotland would by now be independent. They know where the grass is greener Frankly, now that most of the north sea oil has been used up, it wouldnt make any difference to England. What is annoying is that scottish MPs can vote in westminster parliament, but English MPs have no say in Scotland. Scotland has its own parliament so they should go to THAT parliament. |
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As the site's token Scotsman, I totally agree with you. It's like Welsh devolution, it's the political North welsh who brought it in. The Southern Welsh, who keep Wales going financially, didn't want to know. What it is simply is Blair wants to make as many irreversible changes, like changes to the House of Lords as he can. You'll find plenty of English who hate England. but it's a political thing. |
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Blair is now just going for Maggie's record ....otherwise he'd have gone by now |
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Britain .... ....long NHS waiting lists, grey skies, rain, 3000 new laws prisons full paedophiles released early withdrawl of automatic right to trial by jury congestion charging (or on the way) ....more grey skies 37% of income taken in various taxes, worst developed nation for bringing up kids (reportedly) now work till your 68 (and not 65) borrowing rates set to rise ....more rain It's all fun in UK. Anyone spent time in (tax free) Dubai ? What was it like? |
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Vast malls and projects, ski slopes, you can drink there, cheapest duty free in the world. Only 60 miles cross the Straits of Hormuz to iran. 3/4 Indian and Pakistani, so they'll betray Dubai to the Ayatollahs or whoever, just as they tried to hand Kuwait over to the Iraqis. |
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Unless something happens to Gordon Brown |
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Flash, how long did you spend there? I think Dubai (and UAE) are too much in the western sphere (like Kuwait and Saudi) for the west to allow it to be dominated by Iran ...but you never know. Iran's main target now is Iraq or at least the south of it. ...been thinking about going out there and starting a real estate/architechtural photography business - god knowns there's enough of it! maybe wedding photography too but no idea how easy or difficult visas and residency is. I would have thought it not difficult for brits but I don't realy know |
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ski slopes .....I must admit the concept does seem bizarre in a middle east country. Presume you mean dry slopes? ....although I've seen an indoor one with artificial snow and refrigeration When you say you can drink - do you mean bars just like UK or is it in the confines of residential compounds? |
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No, Funk True snow. Don't forget. although Dubai isn't oil rich like Kuwait it still pays a fraction of what we would for oil, to power the refigeration compressors. Yes, you can go into a Hotel bar and order a drink. When I was out there, '81-83, you had to produce a permit, which I was told was issued on medical grounds, like you were an alcoholic. There was always a sensible reluctance to issue these permits to Indians because they would sell booze on. And with outside temperatures of 120F with 80% humidity, it was lethal for outdoor workers to drink. Still, the Indians sold when they got the chance. In '81 I went to Bahrein, and there you ordered your booze in the bar without permits. My father worked there 1956-60, and then there were no restrictions for booze anywhere except Saudi Arabia. But then the restrictions came in as we pulled out. Peter |
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