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From: MSN NicknameCurliestJimbert  (Original Message)Sent: 10/3/2008 11:00 AM
Britain may have lost the bike production crown, but the Japs haven't come up with anything to beat this.
Who can tell the story of the Morgan Three-wheeler better than H.F.S. Morgan himself, the founder of the Morgan Motor Co., Ltd. and the world-famous little Morgan Three-wheeler. This is the story that
Mr. Morgan unfolded, the story of the famous Morgan: 

 
HFS Morgan, who contributes the accompanying story of the three-wheeler which he designed, at the
controls of the first model. It was built in 1909 had a 7 h.p. Peugeot engine.
 
 
 
My first motoring experience (said "H.F.S.") was in 1899, when I rode a Minerva motorcycle; a little later a 3½ h.p. Benz ran away with me down a steep hill and cost my father £28 for repairs. Both machines had been
hired from Mr. Marriot, the first motor trade in Hereford.
After this experience I waited until I was 21, when, having collected a little cash, I purchased an Eagle
Tandem - a three-wheeler fitted with a water-cooled 8 h.p. De Dion engine. It was fast, but not too reliable, and gave me considerable experience during the 18 months I owned it. I then bought a 7 h.p. two-cylinder car called " The Little Star," which, with modifications, gave good service for many years.
On leaving Swindon in 1906, I opened a garage and motor works in Malvern Link. I was district agent for Wolseleys and Darracqs, and I also started one of the first bus services in the country, running special 10 h.p. Wolseley 15-seaters from Malvern Link to Malvern Wells and, later, from Malvern to Gloucester.
Now, during this period, I had purchased a 7 h.p. twin Peugeot engine, I intending to build up a motorcycle. Although I had been a keen cyclist, I never cared for motorcycles. I, therefore, decided to fit this engine into
a light three-wheeled chassis I had designed, and as I had little facilities for machine work, this was mostly done for me. The chassis was, in fact, assembled in the Malvern College work shop, through the kindness of
my old friend, the late Mr. Stephenson Peach, then engineering master at Malvern and Repton.
I drove the machine, which I called the Morgan Runabout, in 1909. It was most successful, due to its rigid frame, independent front-wheel suspension and light weight; the power weight ratio was about 90 h.p. per ton,
and it was therefore, more than capable of holding its own with any car on the road at that time.
Although I had made the Runabout for my own use, and had no intention in the first place of marketing it, the car caused such favourable comment wherever it was seen that I decided to make a few, and with the enthusiastic support of my father, the Rev. Prebendary H. G. Morgan, who risked some capital in the venture, I bought a few machine tools, enlarged the garage and started to manufacture.
I obtained my first patent for the design in 1910, my patent agents being Stanley, Popplewell and Co., of Chancery Lane. It is interesting to recall that the patent drawings were produced by a bright youth (then articled to Mr. Stanley) who is now the famous Sir John Black, of Standards.
I entered my first important trial, the "London-Exeter," and won a gold medal.
During 1912 I tested a few chassis fitted with two-seater bodies and wheel steering. They were satisfactory, and one of the first was lent to McMinnies for a long weekend. I must say I was surprised at the very enthusiastic report he gave it in "Motor Cycling." It was the first Press road test report of my product ever published.
In 1912 I showed several two-seaters at Olympia. They attracted a good deal of attention and with trade support, I obtained far more orders than I thought I could meet. I approached several large manufacturers and (luckily) they turned the proposition down, so, partly with the aid of deposits on orders, I bought machine tools, built some new workshops and, giving up my garage business, did my best to satisfy the demand.
The prototype two-seater Morgan of 1911, with "H.F.S." at the controls. It had an 8-h.p. a.c. J.A.P. engine
and tiller steering.
 
 
During 1912, 1913 and 1914, I entered for many trials, hill-climbs and races, and, helped by quite a number of enthusiastic owners and agents, the Runabout collected plenty of first-class awards. Our first attempt at
Brooklands was in the International Cyclecar Race. This was easily won by Mr. Harry Martin. Later, I broke the 1,100 c.c. Hour Record at a speed of nearly 60 m.p.h. and thus became the first holder of "The Light Car and Cyclecar" Challenge Trophy.
In 1913 I produced some racing cars with a longer chassis, low seats and o.h.v. J.A.P. engines. One of these
was bought by Mr. Mc.Minnies. who ran it in the Cyclecar Grand Prix at Amiens and won the race. It was a
wonderful performance, as he had to change an inner tube of one of the front tyres during the event. After the race this Model was called the Grand Prix, and was popular for many years.
During the Kaiser war I was able to maintain a small production, but the works were chiefly concerned with munitions. In 1915 I built a four- seater model for myself and family to get about in. Again it was a stepping-
stone, for it was later marketed as the Family Runabout; it filled a long-felt want and sold in large numbers.
For some years little alteration had to be made to the chassis, but all sorts of engines were fitted and various modifications made to the bodywork. Electric lamps and starters were added and, as a result of trials experience, front-wheel brakes were soon installed.
In 1931 I brought out a model with three speeds and reverse, one chain and detachable wheels. Previously, all models had had a simple two-chain drive giving two speeds. On the sporting side the Runabout continued to uphold its reputation, winning race after race, for example, at Brooklands.
In 1930, driving a 1,100 c.c. JA.P. racer, Mrs. Gwenda Stewart (now Mrs. Douglas Hawkes) broke the Hour Record at a speed of over 100 m.p.h. As the attempt was made at Montlhéry, Mrs. Stewart could not claim "The Light Car and Cyclecar " Cup.
The year 1935 marked the advent of a new model fitted with Ford four-cylinder 8 h.p. and 10 h.p. engines.
This was the best all-round three-wheeler we had turned out.
Our output dropped, and to keep the works busy I decided to produce a small four-wheeler, light in weight and with plenty of power. I had already experimented with various types. One of the first (in 1914) was fitted with a Dorman four-cylinder engine.
Taking the successful four-cylinder, three-wheeler as the basis of design, I produced the four-wheeled models first shown in 1936 at the Paris Olympia Shows. It was called the 4/4.
Looking back through the years, seeing both errors and triumphs in their correct perspective, I feel I have enjoyed it all; the motor trade has been - so far as I am concerned - a most interesting business.
 
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From: MSN NicknameMOREREPETESSent: 10/3/2008 9:20 PM
IF YOU PUNCH IN CAN-AM SPIDERR INTO YOUR SEARCH ENGINE IT WILL TAKE YOU TO A YOU-TUBE VIDEO.
WHY DO THEY CALL IT CAN-AM AND NOT AM-CAN??

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From: MSN NicknametommytalldogSent: 10/3/2008 9:46 PM
Pete, actually Bombardier from Quebec eh?
 
T-Dog

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman191Sent: 10/3/2008 10:14 PM
As in Army DR bikes. Remember the 350 Matchless anyone?

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From: MSN NicknameCurliestJimbertSent: 10/3/2008 10:24 PM
Flashman,
we """old""" soldiers used to drive BSA side valves.
Jimbert

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From: MSN NicknameCurliestJimbertSent: 10/3/2008 10:39 PM
The Bedelia was Morgan's strongest rival during the Cyclecar Grand Prix of 1913. Built in Paris by Henri Bourbeau and Robert Deveaux it was surely one of the most popular and longest-lived French cyclecars. The body was a torpedo shaped duocar with the driver sitting in the rear behind the passenger. The car did cost 120 guineas in 1912 . The picture is from an early Bedelia's advertisement.
  
 
Here is another picture of a Bedelia. This is the example, that was built for the 1913 Cyclecar Grand Prix. It featured a 10hp V-2 engine and brought the power to the back wheels by means of two really huge belts.
 
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman191Sent: 10/3/2008 11:23 PM
 
 
There you go JimBert 5.0 HP My Vespa was 6.5. Pride and Clarke had a showroom full of these in 1970. Then along came Easy Rider and the lads all bought these to make choppers. A lot died.

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From: MSN NicknamemajorshrapnelSent: 10/23/2008 11:08 AM
Growing up, nothing captivated me more than attempts at world speed records, either on the water or land. Campbell, Breedlove and Art Arfons were my hero's. This mad brained event has virtually always been a straight two way battle between the US and GB. In 83, a remarkable man by the name of Richard Noble, who had no experience of racing, cars, or speed events whatsoever, went to the Black Rock sands in Nevada and in a car, which he had instigated a few years earlier, broke the record and brought it back to Britain. He clocked, one way, 643mph in his car, Thrust 2. In 97, Richard Noble returned to Nevada with a new car, the Thrust SSC and a new driver, his name, Andy Green, an ex fighter pilot, who broke the sound barrier and raised the record to 763mph. I heard this morning that the Brits are returning again, this time with the intention of passing the 1000mph barrier. WOW! Go to you-tube and put in Thrust2 and Thrust SSC and watch them, it's quite something.

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From: MSN NicknametommytalldogSent: 10/23/2008 11:57 AM
major, ah yes, The Green Monster, Spirit of America & Bluebird are good memories.  Then there was that Aussie feller, maybe a Kiwi (name escapes me) who built that jet boat in his garage that broke some speed records.
 
T-Dog

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From: MSN NicknamemajorshrapnelSent: 10/23/2008 12:20 PM
Of course Art Arfons built all his cars in his junkyard, he was a mechanical genius that lad. Remember when Craig Breedlove crashed at about 400mph? his car ended up, face down in the soggy mud. All his team must have thought he was a gonner, but when they got there, he was sat on the tail, shaking, but smiling and called out.... and for my next trick! Fantastic. Poor Campbell, he knew he shouldn't have made that second run and I think he knew he was about to die, but what could he do? He was at Bonneville when his dad set the record and at the end of the first run, he approached his dad, who sat motionless behind the wheel, smoking a cig. His dad failed to answer him, because he was convinced he was going to die on the return run, but he also knew he couldn't back out of it. Fortunately, Malcolm didn't die, but took the record. Donald, sat in his spedboat all those years later, knew exactly how his father fealt that day and knew he also had to win or die. A team have recovered his sunken boat and are restoring it.

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From: MSN NicknametommytalldogSent: 10/23/2008 4:26 PM
major, rumor has it that Donald ran Bluebird into Nessie.
 
T-Dog

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From: MSN NicknamemajorshrapnelSent: 10/23/2008 7:10 PM
I think you might be right Tom, as everything Scottish makes its way south to take advantage of England. Bit like the Murphy's.

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From: MSN NicknameCurliestJimbertSent: 10/23/2008 10:03 PM
Tdog,
have you seen the film "The World's Fastest Indian"? That's about a Kiwi bloke who doctored an old Indian bike in his garage.
Jimbert

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman191Sent: 10/23/2008 10:47 PM
Donald Campbell was killed by the Soviets as part of their campaign to destroy British establishment heroes  See Ian Fleming.

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman191Sent: 10/23/2008 10:53 PM
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have you seen the film "The World's Fastest Indian"? That's about a Kiwi bloke who doctored an old Indian bike in his garage.
Jimbert
 
Well, sure pared a lot of excess metalwork, and you've got 1 Sikh in the handlebar basket, one on the saddle, and one on the backrack, but where's the Kiwi?

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From: MSN NicknamemajorshrapnelSent: 10/24/2008 10:39 AM
re15... No Flash, they killed his boat, he, just unfortunately, happened to be in it at the time. They had intended to empty the lake as he was half way across, but the plug got stuck, so plan B, they had secretly fitted two remote control wings to the front, whilst the team were out having tea and chockie bickies and at a given signal, parachuted down to the agent on the ground by the lake, the wings were activated and the front took off. Campbell was well aware there was a plot against him, as MI6 had discovered a chain on the bank of Coniston water and following it to the depths, discovered the plug, which they sabotaged, by glueing it tight shut. You'll recall Campbell's last words.... SHE'S GOING..... this was code to MI6, which meant..... 'S'oviet 'H'agents, 'E'vil 'S'ods 'G'one'n 'O'rdered 'I'ma 'N'other 'G'onner. ......The b'stards.

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