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European History : The real King Arthur
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From: Ygraine  (Original Message)Sent: 7/17/2005 6:34 PM
I have been fascinated to study the real Arthur  over the past years, and have been blessed with the opportunity to visit sites in Britain. Anyone else have an interest or know anything interesting? Yrgaine


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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 7/17/2005 8:12 PM
If you'd like to take a look at the "Was King Arthur Real ?" thread under Ancient History you'll see we've already started a thread along these lines.
Where have you been in England ? I've been to Glastonbury, but more to look at the ruins of the Abbey rather than for any Arthur links.

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman10771Sent: 10/27/2005 11:21 AM
Hello Yrgraine and Mark
Some excellent books about Arthur: Sword at sunset Rosemary Sutcliffe
A trilogy by Bernard Cornwell who also wrote the Sharpe (Loosely connected with my regt) series
'The Winter King: A Novel of Arthur (The Warlord Chronicles: I)'
WARLORD I
'Enemy of God: A Novel of Arthur (The Warlord Chronicles: II)' WARLORD II
'Excalibur: A Novel of Arthur (The Warlord Chronicles: III)' WARLORD III
Happy reading
Peter

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From: MSN NicknameOwlatnight888Sent: 11/26/2007 12:47 AM
King Artgur was more likely than not two different men. Particularly a Roman commander who had sent ten thousand men to the rescue of Rome.









Owl

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 11/26/2007 9:28 PM
Is this another excellent thread mucked up by incomprehensible ramblings?

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From: MSN NicknameBIGSNOWBIRD1Sent: 11/27/2007 12:51 AM
Flash is that your brother 10771 or are you working incognito again?

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 11/27/2007 10:41 AM
Snow I had 10771, but then lost it, then was 8, so tell me.

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 11/27/2007 10:42 AM
Mystery explained. That was 13 months ago.

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From: MSN NicknameLewWetzel1Sent: 11/28/2007 6:57 AM
What Roman commander sent 10,000 men to the aid of Rome?   The Emperor ordered the Legions home around AD 410, with the message that Britain must now look to itself, but there was no single Commander who brought them back.

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From: MSN NicknamejaeniatsSent: 1/17/2008 7:34 PM
Hi,
 
I'm new and have allways been facinated by Arthur. One authur  claims that the whole story evolved in Sythia. They say came to Britian when the Romans defeated the Sythian Calvery.  In exchange for their lives as free men they promised loyalty and were shipped across the continent to Britian.  Sythians were famous for their horses.
 
A set of five novels by Jack Whyte tells a plausable but imaginative story.  It is one of the first such novels that explains how the use of the stirrup revolutionized war.   Without stirrups to stablize you you cannot wield a sword, a mace or a lance.   Romans used their very efficiant infantry and rode small horses with their feet dangling unsteadily. 
 
They stopped naming princes Authur ... They all seemed to come to a tragic end. 
 
Jaenia
 

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 1/17/2008 8:43 PM
Queen Victoria's third son was Prince Arthur, he lived to be 91.

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From: MSN NicknamejaeniatsSent: 1/17/2008 9:01 PM
Mark,
 
I did not know that.  I was thinking of John's cousin who may have been murdered by KIng John and I think Henry VIII's older brother was named Arthur
 
Did they use the name Richard after the tragety of Richard II and Richad III?  Interestingly enough they both had wives named Isabella.
 
Any Johns?
 
Jaenia

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From: MSN NicknameFlashman8Sent: 1/17/2008 9:09 PM
Hello Jaenia
If you read Rosemary Sutcliffe's Sword at Sunset, or Cornewell's Winter King trilogy, there is mention of the serach for heavier horse in France to mount the "Califractii" the stirruped horsemen. I think Lew, JimBert Normal and Hobbes are our resident experts on ancient equipment.
Peter

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 1/18/2008 9:23 AM
Queen Victoria's grandson (the son of the above named Prince Arthur) was the last to be given the first name Arthur, he was born in 1883. However it has been used as a second or third name since; Prince Charles' third name is Arthur.
Richard has been used a few times in recent years; the Queen's cousin the Duke of Gloucester is named Richard.
John is regarded as the unlucky Royal name. George V's youngest son was named John, he died 89 years ago today aged 13. Edward VII's youngest son had the second name John, he died aged one day in 1871.

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