Ref # 25 . They started out as Stewart, but after Mary, Queen of Scots had spent most of her formative years in France she spelt it the Frenchified Stuart.

Just give me this Tudor site again

The site is HTTP//Gropes.mark.TudorFantasies.com.wet.night

#30

 

Mark the French do not use "W" except for modern scientific terms like Wagon. For example, William is Guillame.

 

Stewart is Steward as in custodian or guardian  

That's how the Stewarts got their name. Robert the Bruce's daughter Marjorie married Walter the High Stewart (Steward) in 1315 thus founding the dynasty. 

Ref # 31. It's an MSN Group - All My Tudors, but it'll close down in February like all the others.

#34

The Latin Servus which also originates Sergeant is relevant

Flash, our dear friend Arnie corrected me many times on the spelling of Serjeant as in Serjeant Major.  Do you know the origin of the spelling of Sergeant that way?

 

T-Dog

Yes it was unique to the King's own Yorkshire Light Infantry which amalgamated in 1968 and became 2nd Bn The Light Infantry.which I joined in 1971 and continued the tradition.

 

Then in about 1975 the identification of Bns with the old county regiments (e.g. The first was the old Cornwalls the second the Yorkshires the 3rd The King's Shropshires stopped, and we all cross posted between battalions wheras before you stayed with yourBn. 

 

The Serjeant bit was never used in our 1st or 3rd Bns, and I do not know that now we have been renamed The Rifles it has finally died out.

 

The Spelling dates back to the Napoleonic wars and I think mark will support me in saying there never was an official English until about 1750.

 

The Speaker's Assistant in Parliament is Serjeant at Arms but no doubt Labour will kill that

Flash, okay so it is unique to one regiment.  Thanks.

 

T-Dog

So far as I know, Tommy. You get some weird regimental traditions suddenly jump out of the woodwork accompanied by some purple faced feller who is furious that you (quite reasonably) never knew them.

 

We had 2 rather nice ones. Officers did not propose the Loyal Toast at important functions, nor stand up to do the same as a gift from the Prince Regent when some Shropshires Officers rescued him from a drunken mob in Brighton. And the Durhams were sent to Jamaica and forgotten about for X years (many dying from yellow fever see Rhodesia and cholera) and were given the motto "Faithful" for compensation.

 

Our Sergeants wear an Officer's whistle on their red Duty Sergeant sash because at Inkerman all the Officers were killed and they took over leadership, controlling by whistle blast with whistles taken from the Officers' bodies.

 

The Glosters all wear cap badges at the back of their necks to recall how they stood back to back crushing French troops with stones and repeated this in Korea. etc etc

Ref # 38. Samuel Johnson's Dictionary of the English Language printed in 1755 was the first successful attempt to create agreed spellings and definitions. 

Thank you Mark. Wasn't far off. see Blackadder. 

Dr Johnson was of course a Staffordshire man born in Lichfield, his birthplace is now a museum to his life and works.

I think he was very well portrayed, he and his braying oik bumpal Johnson, in Blackadder.

 

"The best sight a Scotsman can see is the High Road to England". There ain't ONE. It changes numbers.