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General : Mediaeval Date of the Day : December
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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5  (Original Message)Sent: 12/24/2008 9:48 AM
Transferred over from History Unlimited.
 
24 December 1167 - John, King of England 1199-1216 & Duke of Normandy 1199-1204, born.
One of England's worst Kings, he lost Normandy and Anjou to France and was forced to sign the Magna Carta at the end of his reign, that document forming the basis of English law.


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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 12/30/2008 2:46 PM
Landowners were careful not to call up every man on their estate, they needed some to remain behind to keep it going, so professional soldiers, mercenaries really, were used in greater numbers as Flash says for longer campaigns or overseas.

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From: MSN NicknameFirstflashman1Sent: 12/30/2008 4:49 PM
Depended on your weapon too. A crossbow couldn't be tossed into the armoury and left between wars. Needed constant oiling and attention. And compound ones  cost the same as a small house.
 
 Gunners needed to practice teamwork and pray to St Barbara. Out of obedience to her, they did not rape on campaign, so were socially excluded and operated away from the conroy, or proto -  regiment.
 
Of course, you needed the wagoneers and specialist ones for the guns, with their lifting equipment.  

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From: MSN NicknameBIGSNOWBIRD1Sent: 12/30/2008 10:31 PM
Mark:  I assume York England is named for the Duke of York, is there a large stone battlement there.  I believe it was at the end of a street that was a main shopping area. 
 
 
Where are you going to move the page to next year?  Not giving it up I hope.

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From: MSN NicknameFirstflashman1Sent: 12/30/2008 11:30 PM
Snow
 
Here is Clifford's Tower where 100 -odd- Jews were murdered.
 
 
Position of York Minster
 
Any help?

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From: MSN NicknameFirstflashman1Sent: 12/30/2008 11:32 PM
 
Snow map of postion of lincoln's tower

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 12/31/2008 2:05 PM
That's another peculiarity of American-English, you say "named for" we say "named after". The title Duke of York has always been a Royal title and comes from the city of York, the major Mediaeval city in the north of England. Traditionally it is the title given to the second son of the monarch, therefore Prince Andrew is Duke of York today.
I'll carry on here through January with Date of the Day, but I'll move it to History Unlimited on Aimoo on 1 February.

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 12/31/2008 2:11 PM
31 December 1384 - John Wycliffe, died.
Early English religious reformer. He was an advocate of the bible being printed in English, something considered heretical at the time, and argued a number of points that were to become central to the Reformation 150 years later. Although never tried for heresy, his bones were exhumed more than 30 years after his death and thrown into the river at the height of the persecution of the Lollards, a religious sect that grew out of Wycliffe's teachings.

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From: MSN NicknameFirstflashman1Sent: 12/31/2008 5:01 PM
There was an automatic writing programme last night on TV with the Robinson Blackadder bloke They reckoned Wycliffe's bones were exhumed from Glastonbury Abbey (No doubt with 16 lbs of Acapulco Gold) 

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 12/31/2008 6:27 PM
I didn't see that, I wish I had as I thought Wycliffe was buried at Lutterworth in Leicestershire.

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From: MSN NicknameFirstflashman1Sent: 12/31/2008 7:35 PM
I know Lutterworth very well. Just off the M6. Superb chippy and sandwich bar by car park. 

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From: MSN NicknameBIGSNOWBIRD1Sent: 1/1/2009 4:02 AM
Flash thank you for the York info.  Was not aware of the killings there.  My wife and I were walking around York and just bumped into it.  We climbed a bunch of old stone steps to get to the top.  Great view as I recall.
 
Was not aware it was just a title.  Must have been an original would think that did something special to name the town after him and to make it a title with some merit?

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 1/1/2009 10:45 AM
The first Duke of York was Edmund the 5th son of King Edward III, he was given the title in 1385. There was no personal link with the city or county, but as Duke Edmund was entitled to the revenue from the Royal estates in the county. 
Since 1474 the title has been granted to the second son of the monarch.

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From: MSN NicknameFirstflashman1Sent: 1/1/2009 8:25 PM
"The first Duke of York was Edmund the 5th son of King Edward III, he was given the title in 1385. There was no personal link with the city or county"
 
Ey up, La! Tha thinks cos he's a Yorkshireman 'e's too posh to dress reet! I'll 'ave thee see 'Im an' rest of Royal Fambly (lasses in kitchen mekkin' 'ot pot of course)
 
an' there's oor Jimbert on left, just popped in fer a pint an' to borrow the Royal Ferret.
 

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