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From: MSN NicknameFlashman191  (Original Message)Sent: 10/13/2008 10:24 PM
WHAT IS T-DOG AND THE OTHER AGEING PISTOLEROS' TAKE ON THE .327 MAGNUM.?
 
  • Smith & Wesson Model 327 Double Action Revolver Reviews Forum and ...  

    Smith & Wesson Model 327 Pistol. Photo 1 of 1: ... We start off with the 8 shot .357 Model 327 and morph to the .44 Magnum 629. Did I miss something? ...
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  • Ruger SP 101 327 Magnum Double Action Revolver Reviews Forum and ...  

    2 posts - 2 authors - Last post: 2 Jan
    Will the .327 also shoot .32 Long & .32 Magnum as .357 wil shoot .38 Special. I had two .32Long/.32 Magnum Single Action Pistols and really ...
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    My vuiewpoint is if you cannot handle a Webley Mars you're an ageing pouffe anyway

     

     



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     Message 6 of 20 in Discussion 
    From: MSN NicknameFlashman191Sent: 10/16/2008 2:27 PM
    Thanks for the frame info I am a complete ignoramus.
     
    I asked a female why it preferred the Ruger. "Cause it looks prettier!"...it replied. It is rather tiny and not unconnected with this site.

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    From: MSN NicknameHobbs410Sent: 10/17/2008 10:51 AM
    The bigger nines from what I have read are pretty interesting one of them over here is the .38 super, a very interesting round that never caught on. It is mostly chambered in 1911 frame guns and is currently very popular among the mexican population, who consider a nickel plated one the thing to have.
     
    Which rimless round are you referring to? the .327 is rimmed.

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    From: MSN NicknameFlashman191Sent: 10/17/2008 1:18 PM
    I know I was referring to 9mm as a cost effective substitute, if a rimmed case wre preoduced for a 9mm revolver

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    From: MSN NicknameFlashman191Sent: 10/17/2008 1:21 PM
    9 mm Bayard 1910.
     
     

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    From: MSN NicknameHobbs410Sent: 10/18/2008 8:49 AM
    Looks like somebody stole from Mauser. Or is it one. detachable mag a good idea.
     
    I have seen a 9mm revolver, the rounds were held in place by a moon clip. I forget the manufacturer but i doubt it matters as I think it was a smithy job.

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     Message 11 of 20 in Discussion 
    From: MSN NicknametommytalldogSent: 10/18/2008 1:41 PM
    Hobbs, don't think so.  See Ruger?
     
    T-Dog

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    From: MSN NicknameFlashman191Sent: 10/18/2008 9:45 PM
    .357 is 9 mm calibre
     
    130 gr (8.4 g) JHP 1,410 ft/s (430 m/s) 574 ft·lbf (778 J)
    158 gr (10.2 g) JSP 1,240 ft/s (380 m/s) 539 ft·lbf (731 J)
    180 gr (12 g) Lead 1,060 ft/s (320 m/s) 449 ft·lbf
     
    heavier bullet higher  MV than 9mm NATO Am I right in saying .45ACP hits at 270 ft lbs?

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    From: MSN NicknameFlashman191Sent: 10/18/2008 9:49 PM
    Hobbs the Bayard is a 10 rd staggered column mag.
     
    There is a small story I remember and that is cavalry pistols were supposed to be able to kill the horse. Urban legend?
     
    Another is a lot of cavalry pistols were designed double action ONLY to prevent accidents.
     
    It could be an interesting but escoteric thread. Sod Tiger.

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    From: MSN NicknameFlashman191Sent: 10/18/2008 9:51 PM
    Cartridges of the World: A Complete and Illustrated Reference for ... - Google Books Result  
    by Frank C. Barnes, Stan Skinner - 2006 - Sports & Recreation - 552 pages
    A variety of 9mm loadings are offered by every major US ammunition maker. Historical Notes This cartridge is for the 1910 Model Bergmann- Bayard automatic ...
    books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=0896892972...

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    From: MSN NicknameHobbs410Sent: 10/19/2008 11:18 AM
    I think that was the reason at the begining when they used single shot pistols with no rifling. If you look at pics of cavalrymen from the 1860s-1900 the pistols are worn for a weak side draw butt forward and the sword to be drawn by the right hand.

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    From: MSN NicknameFlashman191Sent: 10/19/2008 12:51 PM
    Never thought of that but you might agree the additional accuracy of rifling is wasted at a 25yd range and yer servants find it slower to reload. A .5 soft lead bullet don't need much mv.
     
    I'll send for the butler an' have a try. Fancied his daughter a long while ago.

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    From: MSN NicknameHobbs410Sent: 10/20/2008 8:50 AM
    Another idea I heard was and an example might be proven by the idiot calibers of the early autos where 32 and .380 were considered big rounds was they were for shooting cowardly men "to encourage the others". Look at the russian political officers belt.

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    From: MSN NicknameFlashman191Sent: 10/20/2008 2:10 PM
    Interesting thinking. This is an account of "the world's most prolific executioner"
     

    Blokhin's most notable performance was the April 1940 mass execution by shooting of 6,000 Polish officers, captured following the Soviet invasion of Poland, from the Ostashkov POW camp, during the Katyn massacre.[4] Based on the April 4 secret order from Stalin to NKVD Chief Lavrenti Beria (as well as NKVD Order �?00485, which still applied)[5] the executions were carried out in 28 consecutive nights at the specially-constructed basement execution chamber at the NKVD headquarters in Kalinin (now Tver).

    Blokhin initially decided on an ambitious quota of 300 executions per night, and engineered an efficient system in which the prisoners were individually led to a small ante-room for a brief and cursory positive identification, before being led into the execution room next door. The room was specially designed with padded walls for soundproofing, a sloping concrete floor with a drain and hose, and a log wall for the prisoners to stand against. Blokhin—outfitted in a leather butcher's apron, cap, and shoulder-length gloves to protect his General's uniform—then pushed the prisoner against the log wall and shot him once in the base of the skull with a German Walther Model 2 .25 ACP pistol.[4] He had brought a briefcase full of his own Walther pistols, since he did not trust the reliability of the standard-issue Soviet TT-30 for the frequent, heavy use he intended. The use of a German pocket pistol, which was commonly carried by Nazi intelligence agents, also provided plausible deniability of the executions if the bodies were discovered later.[5]

    Between 20 to 30 local NKVD agents, guards and drivers were pressed into service to escort prisoners to the basement, confirm identification, then remove the bodies and hose down the blood after each execution; Blokhin, true to his reputation, liked to work continuously and rapidly without interruption. In keeping with NKVD policy and the overall "black" nature of the operation, the executions were conducted at night, starting at dark and continuing until just prior to dawn. The initial quota of 300 was lowered by Blokhin to 250 after the first night, when it was decided that all further executions should take place in total darkness.[3] The bodies were continuously loaded onto covered flat-bed trucks through a back door in the execution chamber and trucked to Mednoye, where Blokhin had arranged for a bulldozer and two NKVD drivers. Each night, an eight to ten meter trench was dug to hold the night's corpses, and each trench was covered up before dawn. Blokhin and his team worked without pause for ten hours each night, with Blokhin executing an average of one prisoner every three minutes.[2]

    On April 27, 1940, Blokhin secretly received the Order of the Red Banner and a modest cash bonus as a reward from Joseph Stalin for his "skill and organization in the effective carrying out of special tasks".[1][5] His count of 6,000 shot in 28 days remains one of the most organized and protracted serial killings by a single individual on record.[1]


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    From: MSN NicknamemagnaverseSent: 10/21/2008 4:29 AM
    RE: KATYN FOREST MASSACRE
    Latest Russian Figures show that the death too was close to 8000

    Encyklopedia PWN 'KAMPANIA WRZEÅšNIOWA 1939'. Retrieved on 10 December 2005, Polish language

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    From: MSN NicknameFlashman191Sent: 11/16/2008 9:07 PM
    When in 1976, a simple plaque with “KATYN 1940�?[93] was put up in Gunnersbury Cemetery, west London, the first such Katyn memorial in the world, the local council had it removed. It was formally unveiled in September 1976, but the Government was not represented at the ceremony as such a memorial was firmly opposed by it and the local council. Both administrations at the time happened to be of the Labour persuasion, which is course, irrelevant.

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