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Which were the first USAF jets to fly combats missions in Vietnam? Jimbert |
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By the way, the launch post. On 21 February 1951, a British Canberra B.2 became the first-ever jet to make a non-stop unrefuelled flight across the Atlantic Ocean, arriving in the United States for USAF evaluation. The Canberra emerged a clear winner of the 26 February flyoff against the XB-51 Question was; which were the first USAF jets to fly combat missions in Vietnam.? Answer: the British Canberra. modified slightly by Martin. |
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| Misunderstood perhaps! Biggot not yet you have a way to go you have only offended the Irish, the Scotch, all Asians, Islamics, queers male and female, US military, Canada, Catholics, Jews. Mark I need a little help here who hasn't Fash offended yet? | Well, I'd like to see where I've ever offended any Jews on site Canadians? pulling PBA's leg becuase he's an ex tankie and I a Light Infantryman? Want to hear what he has to say about British Centurions. Muslims? read my posts. I've lived and worked out there. And studied.others like PTO have complimented me on my knowledge Irish ? Only serious points i made was aboiut WW2 neutrality, Roger Casement, San Patricio Brigade, the rest is leg pulling about potato eating, as T-Dog does about English crumpet eating. So what's decided to make you have a go at me with your pal Tincan I don't know. And Tincan should remember as a manager he should be a moderator. So go have a go at someone else who's left site. like Weatherman. He can't answer back |
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The spitfire was a nightmare to mass produce. That was never corrected. Brittan could make about 100 a month but needed 1000 a month. This is why England asked the Japs to bomb Pearl Harbor. sunny |
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TinCan and Mark Many of us on site are worth enormous amounts of money yet can't spell a damn. Just the luck of the game. Peter |
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Back to Planet Earth, to quote Mark The Spitfire was a product of a more leisuredly procurement procedure, statrting in 1931 with this  407 MPH, 2300 -2800 HP V 12 37 litre RR S6B whioch for its day was hairy detuned to MK1 prototype 1935, 900 HP 4 gun Spitfire. Ending up in 1944 with 2100 HP RR Griffon Mk 14, 440 MPH 4 high velocity cannon (which the USAF never installed) and finally The Spiteful 500 MPH 2400 Griffon (love this, let's have another shot, oh please! oh please!) OK, I'm continuing this on the next post |
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OK, continuing from 59. Point is, we designed to be able to improve continuously. The last Spitfires /Spitefuls/Seafires were the equivalent of the Mk1 plus 30 passengers in loading for power output. You on the other hand tended to build an aircraft for a specific job, then completely replace it. DauntlessHellcat/Bearcat Corsair (followed by unaccepotable turboprop - different aircraft) - Mustang-Twin Mustang whereas with us, there's the Spitfire running from 1935-46, and Israel 1948, the Hurricane Typhoon/Tempest 1936-45. Also allow that the Spitfire was doing Carrier duties, Photo recon, the Hhurricane recon, fighting, air-ground attack, tank busting. Finally allow for the fact we are a front line nation. By submarine and ballon, you had 7 Bombs dropped on you in WW2. We had to disperse our manufacture to 60 plants. |
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Sunny Spitfire Production 20,000 Mustang 15,000 Corsair 12,500 Hurricane 14,000 Thunderbolt 12,500 Beaufighter 6,000 Mosquito 7,700 B25 Mitchell 10,000 Beaufighter and Mosquitos of course, heavy fighters, but it's interesting if we add Spitfire and Hurricane, produced throught the war, we have 34,000 and if you add Corsair and Mustang, you only have 27,500 of the same type. Ok, we can play with figures all day, and argue about equivalancy of say Mosquito and Black Widow. (The Mosquito in its night fighter role shot down far more than the Black Widow). Seafire and Hellcat. (I'd say the Hellcat's better, but the Seafire better armed) B25 Mitchell and Beaufighter and Mosquito. What fun. But as a single type, I think we produced more Spitfires than you did any single type. |
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This book covers in detail the eleven U.S. fighter aircraft types produced just before and during World War II - with a combined production total of just over 100,000 aircraft. Covered are the Army Lockheed P-38 Lightning, P-39 Airacobra, Curtiss P-40 Tomahawk/Kittyhawk/Warhawk, P-47 Thunderbolt, North American P-51 Mustang, Northrop P-61 Black Widow, and the Navy F2A - Buffalo, F4F - Wildcat, F4U - Corsair, and F6F - Hellcat fighters. The text is supplemented by more than 650 photographs, and 200 tables and graphs. Fighter production figures are also included. THERE YOU ARE. YOUR FIGHTER PRODUCTION WAS NOT THAT MUCH MORE THAN OURS. I REST MY CASE. |
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Was the Spitfire produced in any significant numbers after WWII? I ask because I know that the US was still building B-29s for use in Korea and F4Us in both Korea and early Vietnam. |
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Bow Google tells me We built only 55 F24 Spits, Griffon Engine, 4 cannon, photo gear, very like the Mk 14 above, and also 90 Seafires, the Navalised version. Only 17 Spitefuls (see above) and 18 seafangs (its naval equivalent) were built,. the jet age was upon us. Our last Spitfire sortie was 1951 against Malay Terrorists. My feeling is the Spitfire was a graceful manoevrable air superiority fighter, and for a ground attack mudplugger I'd rather see your F4U. With decent cannon. The Spitfire is credited with the first jet kill, an Me 262, and the last were floen by Syria in 1953. Peter |
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Vietnam War Hero John Ripley Dies at 69
ANNAPOLIS, Md. - Retired Marine Col. John Ripley, who was credited with stopping a column of North Vietnamese tanks by blowing up a pair of bridges during the 1972 Easter Offensive of the Vietnam War, died at home at age 69, friends and relatives said Sunday.
Ripley's son, Stephen Ripley, said his father was found at his Annapolis home Saturday after missing a speaking engagement on Friday. The son said the cause of death had not been determined but it appeared his father died in his sleep.
In a videotaped interview with the U.S. Naval Institute for its Americans at War program, Ripley said he and about 600 South Vietnamese were ordered to "hold and die" against 20,000 North Vietnamese soldiers with about 200 tanks.
"I'll never forget that order, 'hold and die'," Ripley said. The only way to stop the enormous force with their tiny force was to destroy the bridge, he said.
"The idea that I would be able to even finish the job before the enemy got me was ludicrous," Ripley said. "When you know you're not going to make it, a wonderful thing happens: You stop being cluttered by the feeling that you're going to save your butt."
Ripley crawled under the bridge under heavy gunfire, rigging 500 pounds of explosives that brought the twins spans down, said John Miller, a former Marine adviser in Vietnam and the author of "The Bridge at Dong Ha," which details the battle.
Miller said the North Vietnamese advance was slowed considerably by Ripley.
"A lot of people think South Vietnam would have gone under in '72 had he not stopped them," Miller said.
Ray Madonna, president of the U.S. Naval Academy's 1962 graduating class, served in Vietnam as a Marine at the same time and said his classmate saved countless U.S. and South Vietnamese troops.
"They would have been wrecked" if the tanks had crossed, Madonna said. He said Ripley also coordinated naval gunfire that stopped the tanks from crossing at a shallower point downstream.
"He was a Marine's Marine, respected, highly respected by enlisted men, by his peers and by his seniors," Madonna said.
Miller said Ripley, who was born in Radford, Va., descended from a long line of veterans going back to the Revolutionary War. He graduated from the Naval Academy in 1962, after enlisting in the Marines out of high school and spending a year in naval school in Newport, R.I.
He earned the "Quad Body" distinction for making it through four of the toughest military training programs in the world: the Army Rangers, Marine reconnaissance, Army Airborne and Britain's Royal Marines, Miller said. He was also the only Marine to be inducted in the U.S. Army Ranger Hall of Fame.
Ripley earned the Navy Cross and Silver Star for his service in Vietnam. He later served on the Joint Chiefs of Staff and was regimental commander at Camp Lejeune, N.C., among other postings.
After retiring from the Marines, he was president and chancellor of Southern Virginia College in Lexington, Va.
Stephen Ripley said his father had a deep and tenacious love for his country, the Marine Corps and his family.
"My Dad never quit anything and never went halfway on anything in his life," he said. "He just was a full-throttle kind of person and those people that he cared about, he really cared about."
Ripley is survived by his wife, Moline B. Ripley, 67; three sons, Stephen Ripley, 43, Thomas Ripley, 38, and John Ripley, 35; a daughter, Mary Ripley, 39; and eight grandchildren.
Funeral arrangements were pending.
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